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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Monday 29 January 24 10:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, it looks like the children may have been baptised CofE then Catholic after the death of their father.

Great find in the 1891 census!  I'm going to keep digging today to try to find when Elizabeth died and follow up on their children.

Thank you so much for continuing to search!

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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Sunday 28 January 24 18:35 GMT (UK)  »
Brilliant thank you, that must be their marriage.

Great find with his military record, explains why I couldn't find him in the 1861 census.  Thank you for detailing length of service etc, I'm struggling to decipher some of the wording!

I'd just found the 1841 census and was wondering if that was Edwin so thank you for that too :)

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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt update
« on: Sunday 28 January 24 15:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

Here is an update after spending some time looking at all the fantastic information you found for me.  I believe that looking for my elusive aunt Rosina, I've discovered that her sister, my great grandmother Elizabeth, is different to the one I had in my tree.  So I have amendments to do!

I looked backwards at the info I have on her that I know are correct, i.e. her 1929 death certificate given to me by her grandaughter and then the 1921 census where she stated being born in St Pauls, Bristol.  This, along with her birth year, was entered on most censuses which has led me to believe the Thompson family she came from is the one osprey found!

The Catholic baptisms of the 4 children, Rosina Harriet b1865, Elizabeth b1867, Edwin b1869 & Isabella b1872, also tied in with the details.  Their father Edwin died 1872 which, as you pointed out, probably led their mother Elizabeth Barry to get them all baptised.  (I've just found her own Catholic baptism in Bristol on 11th November 1835, she was born on the 6th September.  Her mother's name was Harriet which is the second name of Rosina.)

I've not been able to find Edwin and Elizabeth's marriage, maybe they were not able to marry at the time because he wasn't a Catholic?

I found Edwin in the 1851 census as a lodger working as a shoemaker, which again ties in with the info you found.  I couldn't find him in the 1861 census then they were together as a family in 1871 where he was a shoemaker again.  He died in 1872 just after the birth of Isabella.

In 1881 his widow Elizabeth was working as a charwoman, but I've not yet been able to find her prior to the 1871 census or after 1881.

I will now need to look into Rosina's marriage to Henry Wyatt and their descendants when I'm sure I've not made any errors!

Other than 'Edwin' being shown as 'Edward' in my great grandparents, Albert Hardwell & Elizabeth Thompson' marriage record, everything seems to match, unless anyone can see anything I've missed!

Thank you again for all your help it's much appreciated - but please let me know if I've got any of it wrong!

Kind regards

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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Saturday 27 January 24 19:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the further details, yes I have access to the 1939 register so will look into that too.

It does make me wonder if there were 2 lots of Thompson families with similar names for their children etc in the same area and I may have to investigate the alternative one.

Really helpful, thank you so much. - I want to solve this to make sure I have the correct family in my tree!

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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Saturday 27 January 24 18:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all

Sorry for the delay in getting back, thank you so much for all the new information for me to follow up on!  Fresh eyes looking at this has certainly helped.

I will look in to them all and let you know how I get on.  Because of the married daughter Elizabeth Perrin, I found on the 1895 death of Elizabeth Thompson, it's confusing everything!

Albert Hardwell is definitely my ancestor and he married an Elizabeth Thompson.  As haliared pointed out, their marriage recorded showed Elizabeth's father as a boot finisher, I was beginning to think Rosina's family were different Thompsons but that can't be true as her birth record shows her mother's maiden name was Hansford the same as Elizabeth.

I will look into it all and hopefully be able to start to unravel it.  But if anyone finds anything else it would be greatly appreciated!

Kind regards

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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Saturday 27 January 24 15:59 GMT (UK)  »
Re: the possibility of Rosina emigrating, I've not been able to narrow that down, far too many possibilities.

Have to leave for bit, my grocery shopping has arrived early!  Will be back asap.

Thank you so much for all your advice up to now, it really is a difficult one!

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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Saturday 27 January 24 15:54 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the possible probate for her mother Elizabeth.  I've just purchased the digital GRO death record hoping it may show Rosina as being there at the death but that's now thrown another spanner in the works!

Rosina's older married sister Elizabeth was the informant who would be my great grandmother.

However my Elizabeth Thompson married Albert Hardwell in 1891 but the informant on the death record is Elizabeth Perrin!

This is really strange because I have Elizabeth and Albert's marriage record, her father was Edward Thompson and in previous censuses was shown as a beer retailer, living York House.

I'm so confused now!

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The Common Room / Re: Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Saturday 27 January 24 15:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all!

I've been looking at your suggestions, marrying William Parsley is possible, couldn't find the church marriage record for this on Ancestry where they have Bristol records which is a shame as it would show her father's name which would confirm it.

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The Common Room / Problem finding a 2x great aunt
« on: Saturday 27 January 24 15:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

I'm trying to find what happened to some ancestors where I've come up against a brick wall and I'm hoping some 'fresh eyes' maybe able to help!

The one I'm looking for at the moment is my 2x great aunt Rosina Thompson. What I do know is:

Born: 1869 Bedminster, Bristol
Baptised: 26th March 1870 Bedminster
Father: Edward Thompson
Mother: Elizabeth Hanford

The last document I found her in was the 1891 census, living with her parents, Victoria Road, Bristol. Her father is shown as a licensed victualler. Her occupation was shown as a school teacher, which I hoped would help me, but it hasn't. Her father died 1896 but I've not yet been able to confirm when her mother died.

I've tried to discover if she carried on teaching or married but I've not been able to narrow it down to anyone it could be. I'm probably missing something obvious but would appreciate it if anyone could point me in the right direction!

Many thanks

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