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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 21:36 GMT (UK) »
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Cummings Of Ballycarton.
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Good Afternoon Summerhill,
I am almost certain that I am a direct line descendant of the Cummins family from Tircrevin.
I believe we have messaged on here before. For clarity could you explain how you got to the marriage in Moville and connected that to Paisley in Scotland?
(I have done a Y-DNA test on FTDNA my results hint on an origin in southern Scotland rather than the central belt.)
Looking online I can see that there is a Harry Cumming living in Carnowry in 1740 and a family named “Muskimmin” (George, James, John and David) in same area in 1740.
I would be interested to know how you tied up the tircrevin family to Moville as I would assume that they would be more likely to be connected to the family in Carnowry due to distance.
I think that the Presbyterian church in Magilligan does not have records beyond the early 1800’s.
I am almost certain that I am a direct line descendant of the Cummins family from Tircrevin.
I believe we have messaged on here before. For clarity could you explain how you got to the marriage in Moville and connected that to Paisley in Scotland?
(I have done a Y-DNA test on FTDNA my results hint on an origin in southern Scotland rather than the central belt.)
Looking online I can see that there is a Harry Cumming living in Carnowry in 1740 and a family named “Muskimmin” (George, James, John and David) in same area in 1740.
I would be interested to know how you tied up the tircrevin family to Moville as I would assume that they would be more likely to be connected to the family in Carnowry due to distance.
I think that the Presbyterian church in Magilligan does not have records beyond the early 1800’s.
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: mcclellands land.. where are the people from?
« on: Sunday 25 September 22 12:22 BST (UK) »
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: John Cummings emigrated to Nova Scotia from (possibly) Londonderry around ~1780
« on: Sunday 24 July 22 06:36 BST (UK) »John is said to have emigrated to Nova Scotia from (possibly) Londonderry around ~1780
We have his Marriage to Hannah Archibald in 1783 and death there 1805.
Anyone heard of him or his parents? Probably Presbyterian.
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Hi D,
I have a similar surname and I am from County Londonderry with my line hailing from there too.
I haven’t heard of or come across this couple in any of my own research.
From living in the county and doing my own genealogy research I know that there are about three different branches of this surname in county L’derry. There is one branch in Derry/Londonderry city with the spelling Cummings. This family has long/established roots in Derry city and appear to have an English origin. Could this be a possible connection?
Though I do see that his wife’s family from is from Coleraine, if you are not aware of this so very close to where my branch is from: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Archibald-13)
If you have gedmatch you could try checking to see if you match with myself.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Has anyone had an Ancestry DNA test?
« on: Tuesday 20 April 21 03:47 BST (UK) »
I have uploaded my dna onto FTDNA, LivingDNA, MyHeritage and AncestryDNA. AncestryDNA appears to be the most accurate, I am 63% Irish and 37% Scottish, that summarises my paper trail well.
I don't believe that my Scottish percentages are exaggerated, I think a lot of Americans classify Ulster Scots dna as 'Irish'. I have noticed also that there is a high tendency for Northern English to score large percentages of Scottish on this update. I would think this would be due to the shared links between Northern England and Scotland.
I don't believe that my Scottish percentages are exaggerated, I think a lot of Americans classify Ulster Scots dna as 'Irish'. I have noticed also that there is a high tendency for Northern English to score large percentages of Scottish on this update. I would think this would be due to the shared links between Northern England and Scotland.
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Cummins of magilligan.
« on: Friday 05 March 21 21:53 GMT (UK) »Hi OwenC
There were two Cummings Families in the Magilligan Area. There were Cummings in Tircrevan and Cummings in Ballycarton. My 5X Great Grandfather George Cummings was born in Paisley, Scotland , in 1778 and came to Limavady in early 1800's. The Tircreven Cummings and Ballycarton Cummings were related. I dont know if you have this book but there is quite a lot of records of Cummings families who attended Magilligan Presbyterian Church. Its called The Presbyterians of Magilligan Ancestry Guide 1600-1900 by S.T Mc Cracken.
Hi Summerhill, I have communicated with S on several different occasions. I think that I briefly touched on this book, as far as I know there is little on my 'Cummins' line in the book - at least prior to 1814. I do have access to all of the Cummins records in the Magilligan Presbyterian church, the difficulty is that a lot of the names are used repeatedly so it is difficult to assign these people to my tree. I do know that my GG and GGG Grandfather was Christened there.
As I said in the previous post, I don't match autosomally with any of the 'Cumming's' branches in the Limavady area. I know that there was two separate branches at least as far back to the 1831 census and perhaps the 1740 census.
1831 Cummins - https://bit.ly/3sT7vup
1831 Cuming - https://bit.ly/3egYLdw
I am not sure that these two branches are related or if my line is an NPE, through adoption or some other means.
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Cummins of magilligan.
« on: Thursday 04 March 21 05:38 GMT (UK) »I might be years late to the party but here is my info. My 2 x Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Cummins, spelt Kimmons on her son's birth certificate. (1838) She was born around 1818, she married John Smyth in Ballykelly and it is noted that she came from Tully Townland. She had at least two boys, John and James (have DNA links to the James line) I think her Father was Samuel, but that is because I was contacted by a Grandson of the Sammy that was born in 1900. He was raised in Limavady, son of Kenneth Cummins. The complication here is that I am also related to Sammy's Mother, so our DNA match could potentially be to the Holmes side and not the Cummins. I am assuming that my Cummins are the Magilligan branch because my dominant matches are to the McCurrys of Myroe who were fisherfolk in between Magilliagn and Moville. The Gedmatch No for my Mum, who is 94 and still kicking, is A340760.
Hi, I just tested your mum’s Gedmatch with my father and myself, we both share 0cm’s.
I have also tested Cummings’ Gedmatch kits from the Limavady area, I do not match with them either. I think there is definitely two different families in the Limavady/Magilligan area.
I was told that the Cummings branch came from the Glasgow area originally. I have tested my own line with Big Y and mostly have southern Scotland matches.
I have no idea why there are two different surname spellings in the Limavady area. I am sure it’s possibly an NPE, or just two separate families that lived in close proximity. It has always mystified me, my father insists we are all from the same line, though I am consistently not finding any genetic links!
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Travelling People / Re: How could I confirm if I have travelling ancestry?
« on: Saturday 22 August 20 13:58 BST (UK) »Do you remember what the percentage was on Ancestry before it was removed?
I was always led to believe that percentages as low as 1.5% are often just “noise” and unlikely to be relevant. Though I think some people have had success finding contacts with quite low estimates, I am unsure if they were as low as 1.5%.
The ethnicity percentages do change as more people take DNA tests, so they are generally to be taken as guesstimates, and as you have noticed, the percentages can vary between companies, as do their ethnic regions.
I think a lot of us have these small surprising and untraceable percentages.
I think that looking for Romani ancestors is unlikely to lead to success, but see what other feedback and suggestions you get from others.
I’m not looking for Romany ancestors. I am trying to see how I can explain or understand this Asia South percentage.
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Travelling People / How could I confirm if I have travelling ancestry?
« on: Saturday 22 August 20 01:46 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, sorry to intrude.
I am Northern Irish, all of my ancestors are from Northern Ireland. The bulk of my autosomal dna is Ulster Irish and Scottish, with maybe a tiny sprinkling of Northern English.
One thing I noted was a recurring Asia South that kept showing up in my results. This initially appeared in Ancestry and was removed, it is also on MyHeritage at 1.5%.
I uploaded my AncestryDNA results to Gedmatch K13 and have 2.6% South Asia on there.
Population
North_Atlantic 50.80 Pct
Baltic 22.63 Pct
West_Med 13.37 Pct
West_Asian 8.70 Pct
East_Med 0.16 Pct
Red_Sea 0.40 Pct
South_Asian 2.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Amerindian 0.23 Pct
Oceanian 0.78 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
https://i.imgur.com/Mo2GPZB.jpg
I have been trying to find out how on earth I could have Indian dna and the suggestion was Romanini people??
How could I confirm if this was the case, as this would likely to have been an affair if it had’ve ever occurred, so it wouldn’t be documented? Is there anything I need to look for in my dna results?
I am Northern Irish, all of my ancestors are from Northern Ireland. The bulk of my autosomal dna is Ulster Irish and Scottish, with maybe a tiny sprinkling of Northern English.
One thing I noted was a recurring Asia South that kept showing up in my results. This initially appeared in Ancestry and was removed, it is also on MyHeritage at 1.5%.
I uploaded my AncestryDNA results to Gedmatch K13 and have 2.6% South Asia on there.
Population
North_Atlantic 50.80 Pct
Baltic 22.63 Pct
West_Med 13.37 Pct
West_Asian 8.70 Pct
East_Med 0.16 Pct
Red_Sea 0.40 Pct
South_Asian 2.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Amerindian 0.23 Pct
Oceanian 0.78 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
https://i.imgur.com/Mo2GPZB.jpg
I have been trying to find out how on earth I could have Indian dna and the suggestion was Romanini people??
How could I confirm if this was the case, as this would likely to have been an affair if it had’ve ever occurred, so it wouldn’t be documented? Is there anything I need to look for in my dna results?