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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:32 BST (UK)  »
It does indeed. I am currently skipping back through the generations getting basic dates for this branch. Then the fun searches begin- court, prison and transportation records!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Wednesday 05 April 17 17:13 BST (UK)  »
No problem. I am as amused as the rest of you. Not sure I ever thought a mason's cottage could be a den of iniquity!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 19:20 BST (UK)  »
And I cannot believe someone would have put her occupation down as "strumpet" either.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 19:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rosinh,

They were all born in Jacobstow, with Mary coming from Week, St Mary. Mary's daughter Elizabeth went on to have two illegitimate children before marrying my ancestor. I cannot find baptisms under either Ferrett or Steer for any of the four children.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 18:43 BST (UK)  »
Thank you everyone for your help with this. Off to track this branch now!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 18:22 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much suzard

It's a headache now trying to find the mother's family and any of the baptisms for the children. *facepalm*  This line already had its fair share of criminals and illegitimate children.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 18:15 BST (UK)  »
Oh dearie me. She did later claim to have married Richard and the children took his surname.

Looks like they "lived in sin".

Thank you very much for the help rosie99

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Trying to decipher this 1851 census entry- does that read as "concubine" ?
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 18:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi guys.

Just a quick request for some help and affirmation that I am not going mad.

Does the status of Mary (I think Steer) read as concubine to anyone else? If so is this is just an enumerator completely misunderstanding things or did I miss something in my Victorian history classes?

I'm also trying to make out the status of Mary and her children- I can read the occupation of Richard (mason), but not of any of the others. I think the second half of the line may read "Mary's child" for the offspring, but am not certain.

Any help most gratefully received.


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England / Re: Thomas Atkinson, born 1883, seemed to appear in 1907
« on: Tuesday 20 December 16 21:42 GMT (UK)  »
My apologies Annette.


I have been somewhat occupied with a new job and family matters.

It does indeed appear that this Thomas is one and the same.

I am looking at his marriage certificate now and he has his father's name recorded as Thomas, and as a deceased labourer, in 1907. I have no explanation for the faked age other than it might be he was trying to leave something behind- pretty drastic to join the RN at the age he did, give a fake name for his father and a fake age, too? I am bamboozled.

Keyboard86, Osprey, Trish and Annette I am so very grateful to all of you. Time to do some re-evaluating on the family tree. This does explain a potential American connection though.  I am completely flabbergasted.

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