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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Wednesday 17 March 21 16:28 GMT (UK)  »
That's interesting. Do you know when your gg granny Hannah Hansard left the post of cook at Turner Hall?

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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Scarborough- Emslie, engraver
« on: Friday 15 January 21 19:34 GMT (UK)  »
John Emslie and Mary Simpson, both from the Aberdeen area, married in Scarborough in 1877. They remained in the town until 1911 at least, raising four children ...

John (b1855/6 Glasgow) is a journeyman metal Engraver, with suggestions of Artist and Sculptor in census entries. Yet he is described as a Worker, so presumably in employment.

My question is: where in Scarborough was there a business or workshop which could have employed John Emslie over such a long period, and what did they make?

My interest is that John Emslie may have been my granny's father, through a pre-marital relationship with an Annie Flett. Granny's birth certificate names John Emslie, engraver, as father.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Friday 15 January 21 19:08 GMT (UK)  »
Don - it's Run holder, which basically means sheep farmer, I believe.

You can get the full census entry for Turner Hall free on ScotlandsPeople (the LDS 1881 version)

I actually have the second page to yours - it has the younger children and servants, including my great granny.

GR2 - thanks. Would the tenancy of Turner Hall in the late 1870s have been advertised in the papers?

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Friday 15 January 21 15:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the quick and helpful reply. I think that John White may be a tenant, rather than steward, possibly because Lt-Col Turner was posted somewhere. Interesting, because the servants, including my ggm, might have "come with the house", so may be mentioned in a family archive. They had an Irish cook in 1871.

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Aberdeenshire / Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Friday 15 January 21 11:22 GMT (UK)  »
My great-grandmother is listed in the 1881 census as cook at Turner Hall, Ellon parish, with
John White as Head, formerly of New Zealand. There are several young children.

I wonder if there is any archive material pertaining to Turner Hall, or the White family? I believe the house is now gone. In 1871 it was home to a huge family of Turners. I suspect that John White bought the Hall around 1879: the youngest of their three children  aged 5 months, was born there, but the middle one in Edinburgh (May 1879) and the oldest in New Zealand about 1877/8, the Whites having married in 1876 in Edinburgh. In 1891 they had moved to Turriff parish.

My ggm was born Ann(ie) Flett in 1849 in Orkney, claimed to marry John Emslie (an engraver) in 1875, and appears as Annie Elmslie (Married) in the 1881 Turner Hall list, though there is no John Elmslie  or Emslie around.

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Perthshire / Re: Scott- Logierait(Perthshire) 1700-1800
« on: Wednesday 25 January 17 20:41 GMT (UK)  »
My wife is descended from Catherine Scott, b c1801 in Logierait to John Scott, farmer, and Margaret, ms Scott also. Catherine married John McLagan, blacksmith, in Nov 1831 (Logierait).

Any information on that Scott/Scott line?

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Scotland / Re: Robertson's (in Inverness and) Orkney
« on: Friday 09 October 15 17:15 BST (UK)  »
I have an Orkney Robertson in my tree.

William Robertson "of Firth" married Jean Smith in Deerness in 1889. I descend from one of their daughters, so no direct y-dna link is possible, and I do not know of any male-line descendants.

William is 66 on the 1821 Deerness census, so would have been born about 1755.

There is a Wm born 1755 in Firth&Stenness to Wm Robertson and Margaret Leith.

Do these names/dates suggest a link to your Orphir Robertsons?




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Midlothian / Re: Hawthornden
« on: Friday 24 July 15 23:35 BST (UK)  »
My wife is descended from Euphemia Drummond, sister of botanists James and Thomas Drummond (both of whom have biographies on Wikipedia). I note Euphemia is listed on the FamilySearch tree  mentioned. She is buried at Inverarity, sharing a memorial with her daughter and son-in-law. I've seen the book about James Drummond and his house Hawthornden in W Australia. The book provides no evidence, other than family tradition, of a link to the Drummonds of Hawthornden (Midlothian, family mausoleum in Lasswade).

From the other end, I've looked at genealogical information about the Drummonds of Hawthornden (whose separation from the Drummond Castle Drummonds was way back, 1300s/1400s, I think). The family boasts the poet Drummond of Hawthornden active c1650, whose fame would make for an attractive genealogical connection. However, I could not find any convincing line leading to the Inverarity Drummonds. Indeed the Hawthornden lairdship died out in the male line, though the husband of the inheriting daughter took the name and title.

The FamilySearch tree mentioned claims parents and grandparents for Thomas sr, but I don't have access to any supporting evidence or documentation. The claimed grandfather, also Thomas Drummond, married in Edinburgh in 1706, which would provide a possible link to Hawthornden, if valid.

There is Forfar Botanists garden in the town, which marks the lives and achievements of James and Thomas Drummond, as well as of a gardener named Don (ancestor of BBC gardening presenter Monty Don). It features some of the many plants named in their honour.

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Perthshire / Re: Memorial Inscription's Caputh Graveyard
« on: Friday 24 July 15 19:17 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Evelina, that's clarified things quite a lot. Lots of Alex McLennans!


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