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Sussex / Re: French, Pile, Croft, Goss etc
« on: Sunday 01 September 13 22:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi Joan,

I was away for a few days.  Thanks for your reply.

William Thomas FRENCH b 1855 NSW d 11/07/1937 Hurstville NSW
1908 (daughter Caroline's wedding) Marrickville NSW 2204
1922 res Kogarah Bay NSW 2217
1930 electoral roll 42 Beach Street, Blakehurst NSW 2221 : occ Ganger
1933 electoral roll 180 Belmore Road, Hurstville NSW 2220 : occ Retired
1936 electoral roll 16 Australia Street, Hurstville NSW 2220 : occ No Occupation
1937 electoral roll 16 Dulcassia Street, Hurstville NSW 2220 : occ Carpenter
1937 Death indexed showing parents erroneously as George FRENCH & Caroline.
1937 The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 12 July 1937 - DEATHS
FRENCH. - July 11, 1937, at Hurstville, William Thomas French, late of Blakehurst, loving father of Will, Lottie, Spencer, Amber, Maude, and Leslie, and loving brother of Lilly (Mrs. Blundell), Tottie (Mrs. Beauchamp) and Alfred, aged 82 years.
1937 The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 12 July 1937 - FUNERALS
FRENCH. - The Friends of Mr and Mrs WILL (WALLY) FRENCH, Mr and Mrs TOM SCOTT, Mr and Mrs SPENCER FRENCH, Mr and Mrs JACK HILL, Mr and Mrs LEX JOHNSTON, and Mr LESLIE FRENCH and FAMILIES are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved FATHER, GRANDFATHER, and GREAT-GRANDFATHER, William Thomas French; to leave our Funeral Chapel, THIS DAY, after a service commencing at 1.45 for the Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood, Section CC.
WALTERS and SON, Dulwich Hill Terminus, Pet. 2960.
FRENCH. - The friends of Mr. and Mrs. D. BLUNDELL and FAMILY, of Sydenham Road, Marrickville, are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved BROTHER and UNCLE, William Thomas French. For particulars see family notice.
WALTERS and SON.
FRENCH. - The Friends of Mr. and Mrs. F. BEAUCHAMP and FAMILY, of Lilydale Street, Marrickville, and Mr. and Mrs. ALFRED FRENCH and FAMILY, of Bankstown, are Invited to attend the funeral of their beloved BROTHER and UNCLE, William Thomas French. For particulars see family notice.
WALTERS and SON.

Married 1875 Sydney NSW

Mary Jane HARE b 13/09/1852 Chippendale NSW d 08/08/1930 Mosman NSW
1875 Marriage reg as Mary Ann HARE
1922 res Kogarah Bay NSW 2217
1930 electoral roll : 42 Beach Street, Blakehurst NSW 2221 : occ Home Duties
1930 The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 9 August 1930 - DEATHS
FRENCH - August 8 1930 at her daughter's residence Oban, 21 Ryrie Street, Mosman Mary Jane dearly beloved wife of William Thomas French of Tom Uglys Point and mother of Will Lottie Spencer Amber Maude and Leslie in her 78th year
1930 The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 9 August 1930 - FUNERALS
FRENCH. - The Relatives and Friends of Mr. WILLIAM THOMAS FRENCH, Mr. and Mrs. WILLIAM GEORGE FRENCH, Mr. and Mrs. THOMAS SCOTT, Mr. and Mrs. SPENCER FRENCH, Mr and Mrs. JOHN HILL, Mr. and Mrs. LEX JOHNSTON. Mr. LESLIE FRENCH, are invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved WIFE and their MOTHER, Mary Jane; to leave her daughter's residence, Oban, 21 Ryrie Street, Mosman, THIS (Saturday) AFTERNOON, after short service commencing at 1.45 p.m , for Church of England Ceme- tery Rookwood, by road. Motor funeral. Sydney friends travelling by funeral train alight at Rookwood platform.
WOOD COFFILL LIMITED  Motor Funeral Directors
1930 Death Reg as Mary J FRENCH - father James, mother Caroline


I record her as Mary Jane because almost everything except her marriage registration supports that as opposed to Mary Ann.  I suspect there was a transcription error.  A Mary A HARE was also born 1852 NSW to parents John and Ellen, but our Mary Jane’s birth and death were both registered as parents being James and Caroline.  Furthermore, the death notice and funeral notice in the Sydney Morning Herald record her as Mary Jane, and people rarely mis-spell their mother’s name for that.

I hope this is of use to you,

Peter.

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Sussex / Re: French, Pile, Croft, Goss etc
« on: Monday 26 August 13 17:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi Joan,

Perhaps you could give some more detail about the possible Governor connection?

In case you don't know :-

Harriet Jane KING b 27/02/1848 NSW Sydney d 27/07/1937 Bankstown NSW
married 16/05/1870
Elijah COXHEAD b 30/09/1846 Stroud, Gloucestershire (1851 census Bisley, Gloucestershire; arrived Australia 27/07/1855) d 13/08/1899 Leichhardt NSW
children:-
William Henry COXHEAD b 1871 d 1935
Albert Ernest COXHEAD b 1873 d 1875
Alice May COXHEAD b 1875 d 1920
Samuel Eli COXHEAD b 1877 d 1949
Albert David COXHEAD b 1879 d 1975
Herbert Robert COXHEAD b 1881 d 1963
Arthur Edwin COXHEAD b 1884 d 1951
Joseph Harold COXHEAD b 1886 d 1963
Sydney Victor COXHEAD b 1889 d 1966
Frederick C COXHEAD b 1891 d 1949

Elijah COXHEAD's parents were:-
Joseph COXHEAD b 1806 d 1876
and
Mary Jane WOOLFORD b 1812 d 1882

Hoping this is useful,

Peter.

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Sussex / Re: French, Pile, Croft, Goss etc
« on: Sunday 25 August 13 10:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Joan,

Thanks for that. Samuel PILE and Mary Ann SHARPE are my wife's great-great-great-great grandparents. As for their children, so far I only have Elizabeth. She had a daughter out of wedlock (probably Robert FRENCH's child) named Sarah Jane PILE, who also went to Australia aboard the vessel China. Robert and Elizabeth had another 15 children.

Here is what I have on her:-

Sarah Jane PILE
1826 b 22/03/1826 Robertsbridge, East Sussex.
1842 at Petersham NSW married Eli HILDER (b 01/11/1811 Mountfield, East Sussex d 10/08/1846 Narellan NSW)
1842 Marriage reg indexed as Sarah Jane PIALL and Heli HILDER
06/01/1847 at St Lawrence's, Sydney NSW married William Samuel KING (b 1825 Hackford, Norfolk d 1890)
1912 d 13/08/1912 O'Connell Street, Newtown NSW.
children:
Joseph HILDER b 03/07/1843 Petersham NSW d 1918 Marrickville NSW
Walter Robert HILDER b 1845 Petersham NSW d 1936 Marrickville NSW
Harriet Jane KING b 27/02/1848 Sydney NSW d 27/07/1937 Bankstown NSW
Alice KING b 09/09/1849 Sydney NSW d 1932
Sarah Hannah KING b 1851 d 1903 Ashfield NSW
Richard William KING b 1853 d 1937
Robert KING b 1856 d 1935
William KING b 1858 Sydney NSW d 1863 Newtown NSW
Amelia Caroline KING b 1861 Glebe NSW d 1922 Marrickville NSW
Albert KING b 1865 Sydney NSW d 1919 Newtown NSW

I hope some of this is useful to you,

Peter.

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Sussex / Re: French, Pile, Croft, Goss etc
« on: Saturday 24 August 13 16:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi inquisitive4family,

Thank you for the date of Samuel and Mary Ann's wedding. Do you know where please?

Robert FRENCH and Elizabeth PILE married 04/06/1826 at Salehurst, East Sussex.

Robert FRENCH's father Robert FRENCH (ch 01/11/1778 Salehurst, d 11/10/1845 Bexhill, East Sussex) married 05/12/1796 at Bodiam, East Sussex Catherine CROFT (b 16/04/1778 Salehurst, ch 16/01/1779 Burwash, East Sussex, d 11/04/1807).

I hope that helps a bit.

Peter.

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Suffolk / Re: Framlingham families
« on: Sunday 08 January 12 03:51 GMT (UK)  »
You are welcome.  Just in case you don’t already have this:-

Samuel CHANDLER b c.1729 m 02/05/1754 Mendham Suffolk
= Priscilla PARTRIDGE b c.1732
children:-

Priscilla CHANDLER ch 13/08/1752 Mendham
Samuel CHANDLER ch 16/02/1755 = Dorothy BARNARD
Mileson CHANDLER ch 27/08/1757 Mendham
Henry CHANDLER ch 03/04/1760 Mendham

Elizabeth CHANDLER b c.1763 m 11/10/1784 Wingfield d 05/1833 Wingfield
= Henry CORNISH b 1755 Wilby ch 22/06/1755 Wilby d 03/1836 Wingfield
1836 Will left £5 to brother Samuel's son Henry and same amount to Harriet Chandler daughter of Naomi Cooper. Remaining estate to be sold and divided between brother Samuels's son Henry's son Henry Nathaniel of Worlingworth, and Alan Precious of Brockdish.

John CHANDLER b 1765 Mendham
William CHANDLER b c.1770 m 20/12/1799 Wingfield
possibly the William Chandler b c.1768 Weybread Suffolk who married 22/01/1793 Mary BARNS prior to marriage with Susannah FRANCES
= Susannah FRANCES
children:-

William CHANDLER ch 27/02/1803 Wingfield

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Surrey / Re: CLARK and HODGES / STROUD
« on: Friday 06 January 12 13:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Denise,

I have had to overcome numerous technical difficulties :'(, so please accept my apologies for an extremely late reply to your very kind assistance.

I assume the doctor completing that death certificate merely wrote what he thought he heard.  Lilly’s grandmother was indeed a STROUD, and I could be persuaded that was John’s middle name rather than Stough.  Finding the right John CLARK among Scottish records is indeed a daunting task, especially now that I am in Australia too.

If you feel like passing on any more information that would be very welcome indeed.

Very best wishes,

Peter.

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Suffolk / Re: Framlingham families
« on: Friday 06 January 12 11:37 GMT (UK)  »
I have been unable to reply sooner, due mostly to various technical difficulties.  Here is what I have:-

Samuel CHANDLER  ch 16/02/1755 Mendham d 09/11/1825 Wingfield m c. 1784 Suffolk  bd 16/11/1825 St Andrew’s, Wingfield
= Dorothy BARNARD b 1761 Suffolk bd 11/11/1842 St Andrew’s, Wingfield
Children:-

Dorothy CHANDLER ch 18/02/1785 Hoxne d 3rd Qtr 1855 Saxlingham Norfolk m 12/01/1816 Wingfield
aka Dolly.
1841 census Oulton Suffolk
1851 census Oakley Suffolk
= William OWLES b 1793 Wingfield ch 02/06/1793 Wingfield d 21/11/1885 8 Valentine Street, Heigham Norfolk
1821 res Weybread Suffolk
1825 res Oulton Suffolk
1841 census Oulton Suffolk : occ Farmer; 5 servants
1845 res Oakley Suffolk : Churchwarden of Oakley
1851 census Oakley Suffolk : occ Farmer 96 acres employing 7 labourers; 4 servants
1881 census 8 Valentine Street, Heigham Norfolk (late wife Dorothy's sister Emily's daughter Selina TEASEL, widow's household) : occ Retired Farmer
1885 Probate granted to late wife Dorothy's sister Emily's daughter Selina OAKE (previously Teasel), estate £30 13s.

Elizabeth CHANDLER b c. 1788 Horham Suffolk m 20/12/1812 Wingfield
= John FLEGG

Priscilla CHANDLER ch 17/05/1789 Hoxne
Samuel CHANDLER ch 19/06/1791 Hoxne d pre-1792

Samuel CHANDLER ch 19/01/1792 Hoxne m 27/10/1814 Wingfield
= Elizabeth OWLES (sister of William) b 1791 Wingfield ch 20/11/1791 Laxfield

Henry CHANDLER ch 08/06/1794 Hoxne d pre-1797

Henry CHANDLER b 1797 Wingfield ch 20/04/1797 Wingfield m 09/10/1826 Laxfield bd 01/06/1877 St Michael’s, Framlingham
= Jane SPALDING b c.1800 d c.1896

Susan CHANDLER b 1797 Hoxne ch 20/04/1797 Wingfield m 03/01/1817 Wingfield
= William WRIGHT b c.1790

John CHANDLER b 1800 Wingfield ch 30/01/1800 Wingfield
George CHANDLER b 1803 Wingfield ch 03/02/1803 Wingfield d 10/04/1805 Wingfield

Emily CHANDLER b 1809 Wingfield ch 22/10/1809 Wingfield m 09/10/1834 Laxfield
Nickname Emela
= Robert GILES b c.1805

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Surrey / Re: CLARK and HODGES / STROUD
« on: Wednesday 13 April 11 16:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rachel,

Fair enough.  God forbid the registrars could stretch their efforts to writing a middle name before accepting the fee.  :(  After all it is an insanely cushy job and I honestly cannot see what they do that you or I could not have done when we were teenagers, and the concept of paying a fee to record a death has always been reprehensible to me.  >:(  The moron who registered my mother's death forgot the fee and subsequently wrote to me requesting it.  If my wife had not urged me to "do the right thing"...  :o

Just in case he yet proves relevant to you, I neglected to mention Thomas Alfred CLARK was christened 09/03/1845 All Saints, Poplar.  His three sisters were:-
Janet Sarah CLARK
ch 27/09/1846 Trinity Church, Stepney
1846 res 7 Maritime Cottages, Stepney London E1
Lily Stroud CLARK
b 26/11/1852
ch 29/12/1852 St Peter's, Stepney

Best wishes,

Peter.
Amy Stanley CLARK
b 03/05/1860
ch 27/05/1860 St John's, Bethnal Green
1860 res 17 Peel Grove, Bethnal Green London E2

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Surrey / Re: CLARK and HODGES / STROUD
« on: Tuesday 12 April 11 17:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rachel,

All I have on my Thomas A Clark is:-
Thomas Alfred CLARK
b 15/02/1845 Poplar
1851 census 7 Maritime Cottages, Stepney London E1 (mother Jeannette's mother Louisa Lancaster CLARK's household) : occ Scholar
1861 census 7 Maritime Alms Houses, Bow Common Lane, London E3 (mother Jeannette's mother Louisa Lancaster CLARK's household)

Parents:
Thomas George CLARK
1844 (wedding) 5 Collingwood Place, London E14 : occ Engineer
1845 res Poplar London E14 : occ Engineer
1846 res 7 Maritime Cottages, Stepney London E1 (wife Jeannette's father John CLARK's household) : occ Engineer
1860 res 17 Peel Grove, Bethnal Green London E2 : occ Engineer
married 08/04/1844 St Paul's, Shadwell
Jeannette CLARK
b 30/04/1824 Rotherhithe
ch 06/05/1825 St Mary's, Rotherhithe
1841 census Mariners Alms Houses, Bow Common, London E3
1844 (wedding) Mariners Alms Houses, Bow Common, London E3 (recorded as Jannet - of full age)
1846 res 7 Maritime Cottages, Stepney London E1 (father John's household)
1860 res 17 Peel Grove, Bethnal Green London E2

Thomas George CLARK's parents:
Thomas Ralph CLARK
1844 (son Thomas George's wedding) occ Engineer
d pre-1859
married 06/03/1817 St Mary's, Newington
Sarah Allen SMITH

Do you still feel your Thomas A CLARK is my Thomas Alfred CLARK?

Best wishes,

Peter.



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