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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Monday 07 August 17 14:10 BST (UK)  »


Where is Patrick in 1841 I wonder.
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Any joy in where Patrick has gone?

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 02 August 17 23:13 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Milliepede on Wednesday 02 August 17 21:45 BST (UK)
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Also I'm 99%  sure Ann's twin brother John goes onto marry someone Lloyd I have all that in a maybe file!

The marriage was 20 Dec 1879 St Nicholas Church Liverpool

John Delaney 26 father Patrick labourer
Elizabeth Lloyd 22 father William labourer

Witnesses were E Morgan and Ann Morgan

Thanks I found this too Ann his twin is his witness with husband Edward how cool!

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 02 August 17 20:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
This is the family in 1851 census
Combermere Toxteth Park
HO107; Piece: 2187; Folio: 270; Page: 32;
Peter Delany   31 Lab Ireland
Ann Delany   35 Ireland
Margaret Delany 4 Cheshire possibly Chester
John Delany   11 Mo
Ann Delany   11 Mo
Twins b 30 April 1850

Ann's father called Peter as in her wedding cert! But on other census he's Patrick any idea why? Also I'm 99%  sure Ann's twin brother John goes onto marry someone Lloyd I have all that in a maybe file! But don't know where Margret went? And can't find marriage between Peter or Patrick Delaney and Ann Murphy either..hope you guys can help again hahaha! Thanks

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 01 August 17 20:49 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Milliepede on Tuesday 01 August 17 15:53 BST (UK)
They may have married after the 1871 census (taken 2 April) so should be found separately with Ann under her maiden name.

Nice of you to say thanks - we thrive on a challenge here!

Wedding was 4 December 1871 so you're right millipede! Could this be them?
Naylor st I think it says!
Name:   Ann Delaney
Age:   18
Estimated birth year:   abt 1853
Relation:   Daughter
Father's name:   Patrick Delaney
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:   Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Bartholomew
County/Island:   Lancashire
Country:   England
Registration district:   Liverpool
Sub-registration district:   Howard Street
ED, institution, or vessel:   9
Household schedule number:   174
Piece:   3768
Folio:   50
Page Number:   34
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Patrick Delaney   36
Ann Delaney   18
Ellen Delaney   16
James Delaney   10
Catherine Delaney


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 01 August 17 15:41 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Milliepede on Tuesday 01 August 17 15:30 BST (UK)
Have you got the family on the 1881 census?  How many children are on there - Mary Ellen looks to be with her grandmother.

I'm missing Anne and Edward in 1871 and 1881..but Mary Ellen she is with her uncle John ( I'm thinking John is twin with Ann Delaney) and grandmother!
Can I just say thanks..I've had more help here today than any other forum..

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 01 August 17 15:28 BST (UK)  »
Ahhh Sorry I didn't put Mary Ellen dob 1874! So could be unregistered between 1871-74 you think? Was this common back them do you know? Or like carol said re pregnancy then! I'm thinking it's possibly this! What you think?  She was very unlucky with her births wasn't she! So sad! Here's a bit more from my account if it helps and thanks

Facts
Name and gender
Birth
30 Apr 1850 • West Derby, Lancashire
DELANEY, ANN MURPHY Order GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 20 Page 1160
9 Sources
1850
(AGE)
Baptism
05 May 1850 • St Patrick, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
3 Sources
1850
0
Residence
1851 • Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Relationship: Daughter
1 Source
1851
1
Residence
1861 • Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Relationship: Daughter
1 Source
1861
11
Marriage
4 Dec 1871 • Lancashire, England - St Joseph
Edward Morgan (1843–)
1871
21
Birth of Daughter Mary Ellen Wild Morgan (1874–1959)
abt 1874 • Liverpool, Lancashire, England
1874
23
Birth of Daughter Ann Morgan(1876–1878)
30 Aug 1876 • Liverpool, Lancashire
1876
26
Birth of Daughter Catherine Morgan(1878–1878)
18 March 1878
1878
27
Death of Daughter Ann Morgan(1876–1878)
abt 1878
1878
28
Death of Daughter Catherine Morgan(1878–1878)
abt 1878
1878
28
Birth of Daughter Margret Morgan(1879–1881)
July 1879 • West Derby, Lancashire, England
1879
29
Birth of Son Patrick John Morgan(1881–1887)
1 Aug 1881 • Liverpool, Lancashire
1881
31
Death of Daughter Margret Morgan(1879–1881)
October 1881 • Liverpool, Lancashire
1881
31
Birth of Daughter Ann Morgan(1883–1884)
1883 • West Derby, Lancashire, England
1883
32
Death of Daughter Ann Morgan(1883–1884)
abt 1884
1884
34
Birth of Son Edward Morgan(1885–1885)
April 1885 • West Derby, Lancashire, United Kingdom
1885
34
Death of Son Edward Morgan(1885–1885)
July 1885 • West Derby, Lancashire
1885
35
Death of Son Patrick John Morgan(1881–1887)
July 1887 • West Derby, Lancashire
1887
37
Birth of Daughter Rose A Morgan(1889–)
Abt. 1889 • Bootle, Lancashire, England
1889
38
Residence
1891 • Bootle, Lancashire, England
1 Source
1891
41
Birth of Daughter Elizabeth Morgan(1898–1898)
October 1898 • West Derby, Lancashire, England
1898
48
Death of Daughter Elizabeth Morgan(1898–1898)
abt 1898
1898
48
Residence
1901 • Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancashire, England
1 Source
1901
51
Residence
02 Apr 1911 • Bootle cum Linacre, Lancashire, England
Marital Status: Widowed; Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
1 Source
1911
60
Death of Daughter Mary Ellen Wild Morgan (1874–1959)
Dec 1959 • Bootle, Lancashire, England

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 01 August 17 15:20 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Tuesday 01 August 17 15:16 BST (UK)
Have you tried searching for them on the new GRO index using mothers maiden name  :-\
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Thanks but that's how I got the above hahaha..great little site isn't it?  Here's a snippet from my Anc^*$y account

Spouse & Children
Edward Morgan
1843–
 
Mary Ellen Wild Morgan 1874–1959
Ann Morgan 1876–1878
Catherine Morgan 1878–1878
Margret Morgan 1879–1881
Patrick John Morgan 1881–1887
Ann Morgan 1883–1884
Edward Morgan 1885–1885
Rose A Morgan 1889–
Elizabeth Morgan 1898–1898

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Missing two children Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 01 August 17 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I'm looking for Edward Morgan and Ann Morgan (Delaney) married 1871.missing two children please!
On 1911 census Ann is living with her daughter Mary Ellen wild and husband Joseph, next to her name is widow children born 11 children died 9 children living 2...these 2 are Mary Ellen and rose Ann..now I've found

Ann 1876 - 1878
Catherine 1876 - 1878
Margret 1879- 1881
John Patrick 1881-1887
Ann 2nd 1883-1884
Elizabeth 1898-1898
Edward 1885- 1885
Mary Ellen and Rose Ann went on to live longer
Still missing 2? Any ideas? Thanks

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Broom Street Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:59 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Sunday 16 October 16 11:00 BST (UK)
Here you are:



Hi Shaun
Could I have a link to that map please by any chance? My ancestors all lived in that particular area Athol broom Townsend etc!
Thanks

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