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Kent / Re: East Sutton COOK records mid 1700's
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank you your help, Zachtr, I will look at FindMyPast as you suggest.
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Kent / George WEEDEN's wife Louisa
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 21:14 GMT (UK) »
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"Their son, George Henry Weeden, (born 1834; bapt 1836), is my great great grandfather. His death record states that his parents were George & Louisa Weeden. His younger brother, Robert Henry Weeden noted in his marriage record, that his parents were George Weeden and Louisa Singleton. "
Robert Henry's birth registration details his mother as nee COOPER, as did Louusa his sister.
Sophia's birth registration not identified.
"Their son, George Henry Weeden, (born 1834; bapt 1836), is my great great grandfather. His death record states that his parents were George & Louisa Weeden. His younger brother, Robert Henry Weeden noted in his marriage record, that his parents were George Weeden and Louisa Singleton. "
Robert Henry's birth registration details his mother as nee COOPER, as did Louusa his sister.
Sophia's birth registration not identified.
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Kent / Charles WEEDEN and Sophia HILL
« on: Wednesday 06 March 24 06:47 GMT (UK) »
I am currently researching the extended famiies of Charles WEEDEN and Sophia HILL, but suspect my main focus is Sophia's ancestors.
I am investigating whether Sophia HILL's family is connected to the COOK/COOKE family of Maidstone.
This is due to the presence of Jacob WELLS at the WEEDEN household in 1851, the census entry has his age and name incorrectly interpreted. No coincidence that Jacob was a papermaker. (Connecred postings exist for WELLS and COOK enquiries)
His wife Sophia COOKE baot in Loose 1804. To John and Ann COOKE.
I will be looking for anyone with a DNA test with a paper trail ancestry with Sophia HILL or her assumed parents William HILL and Ann.
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I am investigating whether Sophia HILL's family is connected to the COOK/COOKE family of Maidstone.
This is due to the presence of Jacob WELLS at the WEEDEN household in 1851, the census entry has his age and name incorrectly interpreted. No coincidence that Jacob was a papermaker. (Connecred postings exist for WELLS and COOK enquiries)
His wife Sophia COOKE baot in Loose 1804. To John and Ann COOKE.
I will be looking for anyone with a DNA test with a paper trail ancestry with Sophia HILL or her assumed parents William HILL and Ann.
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Kent / East Sutton COOK records mid 1700's
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Observation- there is no batch reference on Family Search for this parish.
Unfortunately there is no one data base covering the surrounding parishes that might ordinarily help in finding people moving around.
There are three baptisms associated with William COOK and Dorothy HAMMOND who married in 2 March 1735( corrected)
John 30 Jan 1736 in East Sutton
Elizabeth 12 Nov I738 in Chart Sutton
Dorothy 2 Jan 1742 In East Sutton
Does the PR of the marriage indicate the status of both bride and groom?
There is also earlier baptisms with parents William and Mary ( possibly Mary WEEKS m in Aylesford 1731)
Anne 1 Apr 1732 in East Sutton
Elizabeth 1 Apr 1732 in East Sutton
Are these children described as twins ?
John 27 Mar 1733 in East Sutton
Anne 4 Jan 1735 in East Sutton
Are there any burial records of either Mary or the two children that might suggest this is the same William.
A further baptism of an Ann 17 May 1741 in East Sutton is transcribed with parents William and Sarah, but it is not clear whether this is a PR or possibly a mis transcribed AT or BT record fir the mother.
A much earlier baptism of a William 1702 seems likely to be one of if not the William COOK.
Is this the complete list of COOK's from the East Sutton area.?
A Dorothy COOK and Thomas BURDEN are understood to witnesses at a marriage of Ann COOK in 1766, Believed to be the Ann COOK bapt 1741, A Dorothy COOK and Thomas BURDEN married In 1767, possibly indicating a close family relationship, adding some doubt to the mother of Ann being recorded as Sarah.
Unfortunately there is no one data base covering the surrounding parishes that might ordinarily help in finding people moving around.
There are three baptisms associated with William COOK and Dorothy HAMMOND who married in 2 March 1735( corrected)
John 30 Jan 1736 in East Sutton
Elizabeth 12 Nov I738 in Chart Sutton
Dorothy 2 Jan 1742 In East Sutton
Does the PR of the marriage indicate the status of both bride and groom?
There is also earlier baptisms with parents William and Mary ( possibly Mary WEEKS m in Aylesford 1731)
Anne 1 Apr 1732 in East Sutton
Elizabeth 1 Apr 1732 in East Sutton
Are these children described as twins ?
John 27 Mar 1733 in East Sutton
Anne 4 Jan 1735 in East Sutton
Are there any burial records of either Mary or the two children that might suggest this is the same William.
A further baptism of an Ann 17 May 1741 in East Sutton is transcribed with parents William and Sarah, but it is not clear whether this is a PR or possibly a mis transcribed AT or BT record fir the mother.
A much earlier baptism of a William 1702 seems likely to be one of if not the William COOK.
Is this the complete list of COOK's from the East Sutton area.?
A Dorothy COOK and Thomas BURDEN are understood to witnesses at a marriage of Ann COOK in 1766, Believed to be the Ann COOK bapt 1741, A Dorothy COOK and Thomas BURDEN married In 1767, possibly indicating a close family relationship, adding some doubt to the mother of Ann being recorded as Sarah.
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Surrey / COOK family in Southwark 1743 onwards
« on: Wednesday 28 February 24 22:33 GMT (UK) »
John COOK married Martha AVIS in St John Horsleydown, Southwark 4th Aug 1743.
Certainly 2 but probably 3 children are identified as their children baptised In the same or adjacent parish, but the first child almost 5 years after their marriage , and a gap 1752 to 1761.
For both early bapts John 's occupation is detailed as plaisterer, ( no identified Guild record yet)
Daughter Avis on 14th April 1748, buried 11th June 1748.
John Robert 1st July 1750.
Possibly Martha Mary 15 June 1763, St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, Southwark, Surrey, England, abode Holly, but occupation Porter.
There are baptisms for another 3 children to a John and Martha in this general area, that are probably not the same couple, but a John COOK and Martha PRYKE married 12 May 1759 in Holborn
Elizabeth Skelton 29th Aug 1759, father is John (elder) St Paul, Shadwell, Tower Hamlets, no occ for father.
Esther 25 Dec 1760, St James, Clerkenwell
Elizabeth 12 Feb 1767 St George the Martyr, Queen Square, Camden, Middlesex.
The main question is what adjacent or close parishes are not currently covered on the main Genealogy sites as searchable records.
This might allow those parishes to be targetted and checked for additional siblings.
It is possible that John and Martha migrated, and specifically to Kent. The occurrence of the name Avis as a forename in a COOK family in Kent might be a link, and is the catalyst for this family to be researched as potential ancestors . A previous posting of COOK in Brasted Kent is part of the overall research.
Martha's AVIS family appears to be identified in St Olave, but is not the intended target for this post.
If current records on line are anywhere near complete, it would seem that Martha'' parents , Robert ( occ baker) and Mary married in Withyham, Sussex, before migrating to Surrey, this seems plausible as Robert and Mary don't appear to feature in baptisms in Sussex after their marriage.
Certainly 2 but probably 3 children are identified as their children baptised In the same or adjacent parish, but the first child almost 5 years after their marriage , and a gap 1752 to 1761.
For both early bapts John 's occupation is detailed as plaisterer, ( no identified Guild record yet)
Daughter Avis on 14th April 1748, buried 11th June 1748.
John Robert 1st July 1750.
Possibly Martha Mary 15 June 1763, St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, Southwark, Surrey, England, abode Holly, but occupation Porter.
There are baptisms for another 3 children to a John and Martha in this general area, that are probably not the same couple, but a John COOK and Martha PRYKE married 12 May 1759 in Holborn
Elizabeth Skelton 29th Aug 1759, father is John (elder) St Paul, Shadwell, Tower Hamlets, no occ for father.
Esther 25 Dec 1760, St James, Clerkenwell
Elizabeth 12 Feb 1767 St George the Martyr, Queen Square, Camden, Middlesex.
The main question is what adjacent or close parishes are not currently covered on the main Genealogy sites as searchable records.
This might allow those parishes to be targetted and checked for additional siblings.
It is possible that John and Martha migrated, and specifically to Kent. The occurrence of the name Avis as a forename in a COOK family in Kent might be a link, and is the catalyst for this family to be researched as potential ancestors . A previous posting of COOK in Brasted Kent is part of the overall research.
Martha's AVIS family appears to be identified in St Olave, but is not the intended target for this post.
If current records on line are anywhere near complete, it would seem that Martha'' parents , Robert ( occ baker) and Mary married in Withyham, Sussex, before migrating to Surrey, this seems plausible as Robert and Mary don't appear to feature in baptisms in Sussex after their marriage.
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Kent / Re: Brasted baptisms circa 1797 for COOK
« on: Friday 23 February 24 15:31 GMT (UK) »
That's brilliant, thank you.
For the sake of continuity in case anyway finds this string of use for their research if they stumble9 across it.
A Chevening marriage (a few miles up the road) has a William COOK marriage to Mary HORSNAIL 3rd Dec 1782. That looks right on the target date for the Brasted cluster of births, and indeed burials. Can't be 100% sure it's even just one family unit, but it is plausible. Mary's death at aged 66 in 1824, William at aged 84 in 1842.
The census entry in Sevenoaks workhouse aged 80, must be him.
Obviously these folk are all quite close to Surrey, so I think the research needs to be expanded. Adjacent parishes to Brasted also to be checked to ensure they are in the collective databases for the Sevenoaks area.
The research into this COOK family in Sevenoaks, has been triggered by a feasible DNA link with a COOK family in Maidstone/Chatham. It was hoped the Brasted link would have been established with them around this generation, ie born circa 1750-1760.
If it is a link with the same family with DNA , there is perhaps another generation or two as a limit
So the expansion of the research with the Brasted siblings of Thomas might be interesting.
My research is collated as the" Kent COOK/COOKE family tree" on a widely use platform.
Contributions to this database welcomed.
For the sake of continuity in case anyway finds this string of use for their research if they stumble9 across it.
A Chevening marriage (a few miles up the road) has a William COOK marriage to Mary HORSNAIL 3rd Dec 1782. That looks right on the target date for the Brasted cluster of births, and indeed burials. Can't be 100% sure it's even just one family unit, but it is plausible. Mary's death at aged 66 in 1824, William at aged 84 in 1842.
The census entry in Sevenoaks workhouse aged 80, must be him.
Obviously these folk are all quite close to Surrey, so I think the research needs to be expanded. Adjacent parishes to Brasted also to be checked to ensure they are in the collective databases for the Sevenoaks area.
The research into this COOK family in Sevenoaks, has been triggered by a feasible DNA link with a COOK family in Maidstone/Chatham. It was hoped the Brasted link would have been established with them around this generation, ie born circa 1750-1760.
If it is a link with the same family with DNA , there is perhaps another generation or two as a limit
So the expansion of the research with the Brasted siblings of Thomas might be interesting.
My research is collated as the" Kent COOK/COOKE family tree" on a widely use platform.
Contributions to this database welcomed.
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Kent / Re: Brasted baptisms circa 1797 for COOK
« on: Thursday 22 February 24 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the Brasted baptism data, are there any marriages and burials for COOK'S, I can only assume the two earlier Thomas' died in infancy.
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Kent / Brasted baptisms circa 1797 for COOK
« on: Wednesday 21 February 24 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Carrying on my research of COOK /COOKE families specifically in Maidstone ,Chatham and Gillingham but also this region of Kent.
Thomas COOK and part of his family are found in Seal near Sevenoaks in 1851.
Piece1613
Folio29
Page number19
Thomas Cook 54
Susanna Cook 54
Elizabeth Cook 32
Ann Cook 16
Maria Allen 5
Thomas declares his birth place transcribed as Bestler but thought to be Brasted aged 54 i . Married in Seal near Sevenoaks 18th October 1817 to Susan Ellis HOLMDEN
Other known children include
Avis COOK b 1823
Harriet COOK b 1838.
Do the Brasted baptism records 1780-1810 indicate a Thomas or any COOK families? A Sarah b 1804 is possibly a sister, not sure if a 1786 record for a William is a brother.
Thomas COOK and part of his family are found in Seal near Sevenoaks in 1851.
Piece1613
Folio29
Page number19
Thomas Cook 54
Susanna Cook 54
Elizabeth Cook 32
Ann Cook 16
Maria Allen 5
Thomas declares his birth place transcribed as Bestler but thought to be Brasted aged 54 i . Married in Seal near Sevenoaks 18th October 1817 to Susan Ellis HOLMDEN
Other known children include
Avis COOK b 1823
Harriet COOK b 1838.
Do the Brasted baptism records 1780-1810 indicate a Thomas or any COOK families? A Sarah b 1804 is possibly a sister, not sure if a 1786 record for a William is a brother.
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Kent / Re: Eliza Cooke born Kent circa 1799
« on: Tuesday 20 February 24 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Maria COOK b Maidstone according to the 1851 census married John MORRIS in Goudhurst, they had a family of 14 of which 7 had families.One of their daughters is named Sophia, another Ann Cook MORRIS.
DNA matches with a handful of descendants from 3 of the 7 families are occurring with a researcher descended from Eliza COOK.
Further more, DNA links are being picked up for descendents of Wiliam COOK and Charlotte DAY from Burhsm.
Their first child b 1789 was John . It very possible he is the father of
Eliza, Maria and Sophia.
DNA matches with a handful of descendants from 3 of the 7 families are occurring with a researcher descended from Eliza COOK.
Further more, DNA links are being picked up for descendents of Wiliam COOK and Charlotte DAY from Burhsm.
Their first child b 1789 was John . It very possible he is the father of
Eliza, Maria and Sophia.