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Hi Lisa
Thanks for your reply
In terms of age my Nan specifically mentioned how old he was in relation to her, and so this worked back to 1921. I guess he could have lied. Certainly Chuck was the name he was known as, and this was confirmed with my mum . Apart from that he was also possibly a "barber" we know very little else unfortunately and we only have the one picture. There  was another of him on the plymouth Hoe walking with two ladies but not sure where that picture ended up after my Nan passed.

I guess  it will remain a mystery given no definite details or matches comes up so far.  He was from Chicago so I guess his movements might have gone from there -- not sure how he would have travelled to and from the UK -- as a passenger or via the Army?

Cheers
Andy

Hi

I actually only recently had DNA testing via ancestry - it does show that my ethnicity includes 17% greece/italian .

I am not sure if it is autosomal?
Apart from that not massive help at the moment as dependant on whom else is on ancestry-- too far removed at the moment.

I'm wondering if he was a corporal this would reduce significantly down the numbers of potentials with the Army service forces.

Separately, someone else has suggested that "xxxx" as a nickname might have  come  about because he was a Junior and they didn't want to confuse him with his father, whom I believe was xxxx --so I guess xxxx could be an alternative. I'm not familiar with "xxxx" and it's use in USA.

Cheers

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Yes indeed it has been awhile! It's like a difficult jigsaw 

I would say that whilst Millicent was born in cornwall , the family moved to Plymouth sometime between after the 1911 census and 1921. By 1921 they were very wedded to Plymouth. I guess with some digging I probably can pin-point the dates by school admission records to see which school Milicent attended and or I think her Dad Henry penrose roberts owned a scrap shop in plymouth.

So I am still leaning towards individuals in and around Plymouth although it is not inconceivable that that they didn't move in one go from St Keverne to Plymouth -- quite a distance in those days !

I believe there is a 1915 register coming out on findmypast soon-- so perhaps I can bridge the time gap here-although Millicent would be too young I imagine to have made acquaintance with either this elusive Joseph/Victor (I'm starting to think Victor is more likely) and Mr Everett .

I like a good mystery!

Cheers
Andy

Hi there I've only just spotted replies to these messages -sorry!

Millicent was born 1900 -milicent rose roberts St Keverne Cornwall. The original family story was that my grandfather's dad -i.e. Joseph victor  Turner or Victor joseph Turner went to Canada and so my grandad was brought up by hismum and his grandad-- Henry Roberts.

It transpired only a few years ago -- that I found out that this Joseph/Victor wasn't the biological father and was paid to marry Milicent as she got pregnant by a Mr Everett who didn't want to marry her. Millicent was 21 when she married this Joseph/Victor and he as shown as aged 27 (marriage date 21 May 1921 ). My granddad was born only a couple months later in Aug 1921! So she would have been heavily pregnant . I do find it strange nevertheless as to why my granddad was named after a man that wasn't his biological father (one believes) , however I guess at that time it would have been a stigma and so for keeping up appearances this was done. So as to what happened to Joseph/Victor we don't know-- moving to Canada sounds a bit drastic? but it's possible if he was given enough money to make a new start! Or possibly he went away for a bit and came back.  I guess if I can pin him down and subsequent generations I might be able to piece to together what happened.  Millicent obviously kept up the pretence as on her death certificate --my grandad registered her death in 1967 she was shown as widowed.

I missed a big clue and only spotted it tonight - in that she made a will 9th Sept 1921 stating she was the wife of Victor Turner , in  which her Son was named as sole beneficiary (assuming he had reached the age of 21) or her father if her son pre-deceased, so effectively excluding . Joseph/Victor  was not mentioned.

In hindsight perhaps why my grandad never used his christian name Victor ?  We all called him George his middle name.

I'm thinking I might have to wait for the 1921 census to see if there is anything else that might help shed some light into the past!