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Thank you Karen and Crisane.


I'm really grateful for the marriage findings, which, as Crisane says, will definitely be worth my pursuing for the additional information on the GRO certificate.


Maybe one day a living Kilarski will read this and get in touch.

Ian

I wish I knew when and where - I can't find a marriage record anywhere for Mary and Joseph.

Here's a jumbled collection of just about all the information I've found:

The 'Registration District' at the top of the GRO 1845 birth entry extract for Anna Maria says 'Colchester Union'. Would that mean that baby Anna Maria was born in the Colchester Poor Law Union workhouse? The 'sub-District' is also 'Colchester Union'.

Colchester Poor Law Union had 16 constituent parishes when it was formed in October 1836.

It seems that at the time when Anna Maria Salmon was born to them in 1845, Mary may have been 44 years old and Joseph perhaps 36.

So the marriage could have been as far back as 1825..?

The concentrated numbers of Platfords in Norfolk may suggest that Mary originated there. Possibly the marriage could have taken place in Norfolk just as well as in Colchester. I saw a Mary Ann Platford as born in Norwich in 1801.

Joseph was a Pipe-maker, variously Pipe Cleaner(?).

Despite the likelihood of Mary Platfort (Anna Maria's mother's maiden name on her b.c.) actually being Mary Platford, I do have, as I said, another Platfort-with-a-t around that time, albeit he was 'Dutch'.

I've only looked up free sources.

Thank you for your interest and for your much-appreciated help.

Ian

Thank you so much, Karen.

Baby boy Henry Edmund just sneaked into the Census. Seems he may have been a bit of an afterthought by Robert and Caroline. Thank goodness, for he was to be my mother's mother's father.

He was born in that house and lived there until 1882 when he left home when he married Rosa Stargratt and moved across Upper Street, down Essex Road a bit to Packington Street, where my grandmother - also Caroline - was born, in 1884.

Amazing, I can simply say  'my grandmother's grandfather' (Robert) and I'm back to 1815.

I have a copy of the 1838 GRO marriage entry for Robert and Caroline Graves, thank you.

My own first grandchild was born last November, on my birthday. I'm off to England from Hong Kong on Saturday to meet him and to congratulate his mother, my only child. It'll be just my second trip to the UK in 25 years.  And so another generation begins.

Thanks again Karen. My very best wishes to you. Ian.

Can anyone help me please with the residents at 6, Trinity Street Islington in 1861? Thank you.

Ah, I see. Well, thanks for that, chiboy

Cheers,
China (no, I'm not from China

I think I've found your photographer. His full name (maybe in fact his business name) was Tung Hing.

You'll need to scroll through the link (below) a bit and look closely to find him.

I'd bet money that this is our fellow. It's a shame that most of the really talented Chinese photographers  of the period have been ignored by history. You'll read how westerners on a visit to Hong Kong and Shanghai in the 19th C. sought out these esteemed photographer guys, whose reputation carried around the world even back then. A bit like how the really great tailors of today here in Hong Kong are well-known by the cognoscenti in New York, London and so on.
The article is really worth a look all through. PM me if you can't make the link work.

http://www.old-japan.co.uk/_china/article_china.html