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That's great, please let us know if you receive any further information. I'm interested in the child Anna, definitely on the ship with them, but not born on the voyage (as per newspaper report of the arrival of the Orari). Hoping you find a baptism.Hey 🙋♀️ I did find Anna's birth & baptism with the help of the wonderful Ilona, did you still want the information?
Update: For a small donation to the German Church in Liverpool IIlona Ziessler is going to search the registers for me.
I emailed the church and they responded back promptly which I've over the moon about.
I'm excited for you. I did more or less the same thing when I discovered that the Ev. Lutheran church in England had given the name of the village of my German roots.
Surfing the web gave me the nearest Lutheran church in what is now Germany. I wrote to the Church enclosing a small monetary gift. In my letter I stated the names of the children of my English gt.grandmother and German gt. grandfather.
It wasn't long before I received information from the Ev. Lutheran church that apparently only opened once a week. They listed the full names and dates of birth/baptisms of my Gt.grandfather and his eleven siblings !! With the letter was enclosed a beautiful set of printed pictures of the church and the village (Steinlah).
the list of baptisms also included names of his mother's siblings. I knew that an "Uncle Conrad" had brought my gt. grandfather to England but there wasn't a "Conrad" in the list - I wrote back and asked if a "Conrad" had been squeezed in between a couple of other family baptisms. The church wrote back and agreed that they'd missed off details of a "Conrad". In those days a vicar had to send a list of boys names who had their 20th birthday that year to a specified area office. Those boys would then be drafted into the German navy and Conrad had done a runner and joined a travelling group of musicians. Being part of a group of travelling musicians was how my gt. grandfather came to be in England where he met my gt. grandmother.
That's great, please let us know if you receive any further information. I'm interested in the child Anna, definitely on the ship with them, but not born on the voyage (as per newspaper report of the arrival of the Orari). Hoping you find a baptism.Sure will, here in NZ she was known as Annie Jessie Crowder who in 1896 married William Archibald TATE. They had 9 children.
I see that you now have the information you require, but others may like to know that there were a couple of churches catering for Germanic people who came to live in Liverpool. If ancestors were Catholics, then they would attend normal Catholic churches in the UK, but the usual Germanic religion was Ev. Lutheran who kept better records than the Scots, and definitely better than most English church records.Thanks for that information! I'm hoping to get some answers to this mystery
I discovered the German village where my ancestor came from by finding my Yorkshire grandmother's Ev. Lutheran church baptism, which stated she'd been named after her paternal grandmother, who still lived in a specific German village. Unlike the English Church marriage record of her parents, the Lutheran record gave full names of all grandparents, both partners' full names plus full names and places of witnesses and occupations of everyone.
I see there were two churches in Liverpool catering for non-English parishioners. One being a German Lutheran Church in Mill Street, with christening records for 1830-1845
.... and the other was a Brunswick/Braunschweig church in Moss Street, (Brunswick/Braunschweig is an area in Germany). with christening records for the period; C 1814-1836-7.
https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/media/898326/L.pdf
The "archivar"'s phone number is at the bottom of this document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTS7oxrZX5FG7fu5d09fQIOW8U_75746J8MlutEylVoMAI34UIjeyr5skjq3FLwZL8jGPFeTCJPNhNJ/pub
The Anglo-German Family History Society may be able to advise you - https://www.agfhs.com
They also now have a Facebook page.
Hi
Suggestion on their entry on Find a Grave that the couple come from Poland.
Her maiden name Poloykart
possible baptism for August Kraulodat
August Krauledat
Gender: Männlich (Male)
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 25. Jun 1859 (25 Jun 1859)
Baptism Date: 26. Jun 1859 (26 Jun 1859)
Baptism Place: Mehlkehmen, Stallupönen, Ostpreussen, Deutschland (Germany)
Father:
Christian Krauledat
Mother:
Eva Krauledat
Legitimacy: Ehelich
Page number: 129;130
Author: Evangelische Kirche Mehlkehmen (Kr. Stallupönen)
City or District: Mehlkehmen
It is now Kallinino which is just in Russia -that detached bit near Kallingrad.
As you know Augus Wilhelm Kraulodat was born 1852 according to his gravestone so it is a bit out.
Otherwise there is this in Danzig
Danzig-Westpr, Neu Paleschken, Koscierzyna u Nowe Polaszki, , Deutschland
Birth Date
30 Jan 1853
Father's Name
August Carlotzartowicz
Mother's Name Auguste
Mother's Alias Baska
There is also a family tree on Ancestry gives his parents as August Kraulodat and Ann Myers.
Anna's father is John.
Anna Plokarz Possen 14.1.1851 d of Joannes and Catharina Uzarek could be her
Ciderdrinker
I assume this is the thread you mentioned.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=430735
Maybe if you post a reply to that thread asking for a lookup of the possible baptism, "liverpool church" will receive notification of your post (if she still has the same email address). The thread does have her name - I see googling her name comes up with an address in Liverpool - you could try contacting her. She is the archivist of the German Church Liverpool. Unfortunately she only made 2 posts, so you probably can't contact her through the private message system.