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Thanks Nicola. As long as you're aware of what's what I shall await your news. No rush.  David.

I would be interested in any information on this family the and descendants of John Noble and Ellen Grotz and John Noble and Ivy Clarke.

checked and replied my dear HOLLY !!!

Hi Holly I am researching one John Paton or Patton born Belston 2 Feb 1804 ( ?) married 2 Dec 1850 Margaret Roberton...Belston, Perthshire, Scotland,  I believe his father was John Paton c1777 - 1847  and Jean ?  They came to Barrie, Ontario ...  A lot of Margaret's sibblings were bapt at AUCHTERGAVEN,PERTH,SCOTLAND .... I am sure this family some how connects to yours... if you can please get in touch... I am in Ontario ...

thanks,
David

I hope some of this will be helpful:

Belston Farm (sometimes spelled Belstane) can be found on streetmap.co.uk, by getting the map open at Bankfoot.  Two roads lead west, the lower road goes to Belstane Farm.  It is just past Farkhill and just before Balquharn.

This is the ancestral home of my husband's family, PATON.  One son, Peter, emigrated in the early 1800's to Canada.  I have a fairly complete record after his arrival in Canada, but haven't found anything in Scotland earlier than his birth in 1803 (Auchtergaven).  His parents were Andrew and Anne, his brothers were James, 1794 Auchtergaven, Andrew 1800, Auchtergaven, John 1809, Auchtergaven.

I am sure there were sisters.  I think I found James on the Scottish census with a wife, Catherine, on Prieston Road (alternately given as Auchtergaven and Bankfoot), but none of the others.

I wonder if your Rorie relatives might be connected to my Patons?

Cheers from Canada!
Holly

He is the son of a Rev W P Hoste  and brother of a William Derek.

this may be of interest, below.

you may also write me at:

davidarathoonstudio ( at sign here ) sympatico.ca

for more family information.
yours,
David


Rhodesia in 1890

by H. F. (Skipper) Hoste
Henry Francis Hoste was one of the older officers when at the age of 37 he was commissioned as a captain in the Pioneer Corps, but he had a wealth of unusual experience to contribute.

He was born in 1853 at Stanhoe, near Sandringham in Norfolk, the son of the Reverend W. P. Hoste, who was later Dean of St. Paul's, and a descendant of Admiral Sir William Hoste who fought as a midshipman under Nelson and commanded at a notable engagement off the island of Lissa in 1811. Hoste, after Haileybury, failed his entrance examination for the Royal Navy and joined the Merchant Navy instead, serving a three-year apprenticeship in a China tea clipper. From sail he went into steam in the service of the Union Steam Ship Company and he first visited South Africa as fourth officer of the R.M.S. Teuton. In 1877 he was a member of an expedition sponsored by the Foreign Office to enquire into the slave trade in Central Africa; Herbert, a brother of Cecil Rhodes, was another member of the party, which became the first to reach the north tip of Lake Nyasa overland. Subsequently he rejoined the Union Company as its Commodore and from 1883 to 1890 was captain of the R.M.S. Trojan. He describes below the circumstances in which he met Rhodes and joined the Pioneer Corps as Captain of 'B' Troop.

After the disbandment of the Pioneer Corps in Mashonaland he was involved in the operations against the Portuguese in Manicaland. He cast his fortunes with those of the new country, as a prospector and miner and later as a farmer. During the 1896 Rebellion he was commissioned as a major and appointed second in command of the Salisbury Field Force. He died in January 1936.

A few years before his death he compiled an account of Forty Years Ago: Rhodesia in 1890, which was clearly taken very closely from the diary he kept during his early days in the country. This diary has since disappeared but I am indebted to his grandson, Mr. P. H. Hoste-Davies, of Melsetter, for permission to publish these extracts from the later account. They have all the force of contemporary description. Some notes have been added where it has been thought necessary to clarify the text.

E.E.B.