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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Monday 27 May 13 22:44 BST (UK)  »
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Hi, im new to this but i have recently been looking up the family tree as my grandmother is 100 yrs old this week, she was mentioned in an earlier post, Mary Herward (now Hyland ) was Pakes sister and she is still going strong, she is my grandmother :-)

Wow, does she have any knowledge of anyone called Martin Herward ?

I've got a lot of info from Mary (my grand aunt) who has just turned 100 for the tree over the years and also from church records, etc, and we don't have a Martin in our tree.

It is possible I've missed someone though. Maybe you can supply more detail and I can check if he ties in anywhere?

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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Wednesday 22 May 13 22:37 BST (UK)  »
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Hi, im new to this but i have recently been looking up the family tree as my grandmother is 100 yrs old this week, she was mentioned in an earlier post, Mary Herward (now Hyland ) was Pakes sister and she is still going strong, she is my grandmother :-)

Hi, I have recently gained more info on our family tree.

I'll send you a private message now with my e-mail address and I can e-mail you on an overview of our family tree if you wish.

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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Tuesday 20 December 11 08:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi bherward, thanks for replying to this thread. If you are tracing a Mayo line, then we are almost certainly connected - given it's such a rare name.

In my line, I've found some of the family [siblings] going by Harwood, Herwood, Hereward, Howard and Harewood.

There are other Herwards in nearby Clonbur which is in County Galway, but I haven't managed to connect to them yet, though I would assume there is some connection if we could go back far enough.

I have recently found further information for my line. My GG Grandfather Patrick [born 1835, married Mary Conroy, b. 1836] Herward's father was James Herward [b. circa 1789] and James had a brother named John Herward [b. circa 1790]. John was a widower, I don't know if he had children but would like to follow that line further.

James can be found in Griffith's Valuation at the Lindsay Estate, Capaquila, Davros, Hollymount, Co. Mayo, Ireland.  His brother John, who was a ploughman, was living and working at Mount Jennings, Roos, County Mayo. 

There is a marriage record for the Protestant Church in Kilmaine, County Mayo, for a Henry Herward to a Mary Burke in 1744. I haven't been able to connect to these yet but was surprised to learn there were Herwards in Kilmaine for that long.

We have always assumed there was a religion change from Protestant to Catholic but haven't figured out if and when that happened yet.

As regards my GG Grandfather Patrick Herward [b. 1835, d. 1875] who I had been told died following a stone to the head, I have finally found newspaper articles to confirm the story which had been passed down through the family.

Find attached. [first name incorrectly written as 'John' in first article]

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Roscommon / Re: Michael McGarry from Co. Roscommon, born 1877
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 08:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi there! This is a very exciting development for me. I would be delighted to hear of any information you may have and I can supply you with some further details by private message. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to this thread!

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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 23:39 BST (UK)  »
And I should add that Pake's sister Mary is actually still alive and resident in the Kilmaine area, she is the last of that generation of Herewards.

She will be 99-years-old on her next birthday and is in great form, always ready to supply info in regard to the family tree.

She doesn't know any more info on the Patrick Hereward I am researching though other than what I have posted above.

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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 23:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi there,

What a small world! Yes, Pake was my grand uncle so I knew him well, sadly I wasn't old enough to pay more attention to his information on family history at the time, but it was him who wrote the history and it has been a fantastic resource to me as he gave a great insight into the personalities of various characters in the family, including who was known to be a bit moody and who preferred to be alone with books than to encounter other people. It is so much more interesting to have this information than just a list of names and dates.

Dates don't seem to have been Pake's strong point though so I'm still working my way through correcting those.  ;D

I was too young to pay any attention to the radio programmes, but I do remember Jim Fahy visiting when I was a child and interviewing him, I believe on two occasions. I'd love to be able to hear those interviews now, if anyone happens to know where they could be located, do let me know.

I will send you a private message.

 

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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 22:26 BST (UK)  »
This is a pay site but as your name is quite rare it looks very good  :)

Mayo marriage

Oh wow, I'm going to have to pay for that. I don't mind paying when I'm sure it's correct, and in this case!...

Excellent find, thank you!

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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 22:24 BST (UK)  »
I'm confused as to whether this is the same Pat in 1901 as 1911, as he could read and write in 1901 but couldn't in 1911...?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Kilcommon/Roos/1578843/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Kilcommon/Roos/706508/

Also, would it be unusual for several members of the same family to actively use different variations of the same surname?

It has always been hinted at and joked about in the family that the Herewards 'made up' the surname as they had fled from England after doing something bad.  

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Mayo / Re: Herward or Hereward of the Hollymount/Roundfort area
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Family Search has a death for a Patrick Howard 36 yrs died 1875 Ballinrobe - that may be him.  :-\
It would only give the details of death and who registered the death. No parents names given.
His marriage would have been before civil registration so you would have to try Parish records.

Are any of the family in Mayo in the censuses? I know you said Mary died in 1916.
I was wondering if this is Mary in 1901
Mary Herward with son James in Cregmore (Lynch) townland and is there also in 1911.

There is also a Howard brother and sister in 1901 (in their 20s) in Roos 1901.  He is Herewood (transcribed as Harewood)  in 1911.

heywood

Oh, great find on the Howard, I would think that is most likely him. I was searching for Herwerd, Herwood, etc, but didn't search 'Howard'.

I'll have to figure out what parish they married in and see then about following up on marriage records. I would assume Ballinrobe but it's hard to know.

And yes, that is Mary and her son there in the 1901 census.

I hadn't previously spotted the 'Howards/Harewoods' in Roose, but that is my family also, the Herewards were still at that address until a couple of years ago. Good find! Thanks.

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