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Limerick / Obtaining Certs (online) from the GRO prior to 1920
« on: Monday 14 July 14 14:44 BST (UK)  »
I am curious as to the best method for obtaining civil marriage certs online from the GRO for events prior to 1920.  It seems that the search parameters for online orders only go back to 1920.  I am aware that there is the option to send a request by Post, however, I am not very comfortable in sending credit card information through the mail on such a long journey. 

The data I obtained from Rootsireland.ie is regarding a marriage between John Collins and Mary McAuliffe, which occurred in Limerick, on 02 Oct 1871.  The transcription of the event states that the father of John Collins was, Michael Collins.  The death certificate of John Collins from Bridgeport, Connecticut, USA, states that the father of John Collins is Thomas Collins.

Marriage Info according to IrishGenealogy.ie:

SR District/Reg Area   Limerick
Returns Year   1871
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   20
Returns Page No   271

Any thoughts/ideas are appreciated.

Ben

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Thanks everyone for giving this a go.  I really appreciate all of the responses.

The man on the left in the kilt photo is the same person in the Methuen AFC photo under the inscribed name, 'Ernest'.

The kilted photo would be a picture of him while a member of 'Sir Sam's Own', a part of the Canadian Expeditionary Force, World War I. 

Any ideas on a date for the football club photo?

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I would appreciate it if some of major damage items can be fixed.

Also, I'm curious if the individuals listed in the below picture are either of the individuals in the above picture.

Thanks

Ben

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Keighley Pieman
« on: Tuesday 25 June 13 17:17 BST (UK)  »
From what I can tell the following RC Churches are located in Keighley:

St. Anne's
Christ the King
Our Lady of Victories
St. Joseph's

Of these, what would be my best bet for locating funeral information (if it exists) for James Kenney?  Bearing in mind that the family lived on 6 King Street when he died and the year was 1897.

Thanks,

Ben

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Keighley Pieman
« on: Friday 07 June 13 13:42 BST (UK)  »
I just received the data contained in the Coroner's inquest from the Wakefield Archives.  Unfortunatly, not too much data was recorded. 

Transcription of data provided via email:

Number: 19
Held when: 1897 June 9th
Held where: Liberal Club, Silsden
Name and surname: James Kenny
Age: 43
Verdict:  Found drowned in the Leeds and Liverpool Canal no mark of violence
Expenses paid by coroner: £2 16s 6d
Miles: 6

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Keighley Pieman
« on: Thursday 06 June 13 14:16 BST (UK)  »
I just received a copy of the 'Certified Copy of an Entry of Death' from the GRO for James Kenny. 

Transcription:

When and where died:  Found dead Seventh June 1897; Leeds and Liverpool Canal; Silsden U.D.
Name and surname:  James Kenny
Sex:  Male
Age:  43
Occupation:  General Labourer
Cause of death:  Found drowned; No mark of violence upon his person
Signature, description and residence of informant:  Certificate received from T.P. Brown; Coroner for Craven District; Inquest held Ninth June 1897
When registered:  Twelfth June 1897
Signature of registrar:  A.H. Dawson, Registrar

I have sent an email request to the West Yorkshire Archive Service, in an attempt to obtain the coroner's inquest.  Hopefully, they will be able to locate it.

benicio

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England / Re: How to confirm church where marriage/funeral occurred
« on: Tuesday 04 June 13 23:57 BST (UK)  »
A Parish Church is always Church of England. On the marriage certificate it says " Married in xxxxxx according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the xxxxxxx by 'Banns/Licence/Certificate' by me....."
"Married in" will be the name of the Church or non-conformist Chapel and "Rites and Ceremonies of the" will be the particular denomination e.g. Baptists, Methodists, etc.
See http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/marriages.htm#COL9
Stan

The specific marriage I am referencing is between James Kenny and Anne Donegan, 12 Jul 1879 - you can see certificate on Ancestry.com. This particular certificate lists the following: 'Marriage solemnized at the parish church in the parish of keighley in the county york' and 'married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by (blank) or after Banns by me.'

Also, the civil birth certificate I am in possession of is for James Kenny, born on '27 Dec 1853; Gay Lane; Otley'.  James is the son of 'John Kenny' and 'Ann Kenny formerly Rogers'

As you can see, neither document seems to specify and data that can help identify religious denomination.  However, since the marriage cert states 'Parish Church', I can safely assume it took place in a COE Church, correct?  If so, which churches would be my best bet for birth/marriage info?

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England / How to confirm church where marriage/funeral occurred
« on: Tuesday 04 June 13 20:08 BST (UK)  »
When pulling English documents from the nineteenth century, many state as occurring in 'The Parish Church'.  I am assuming this would be referring to a Church of England church, and if so, what would the document read if the marriage was solemnized in a Roman Catholic or other religious entity?  I am unsure as the process of identifying correct religious affiliation of individuals in nineteenth century England.

Specific example relating to my question:

I am looking for information on a birth that occurred in Otley on 27 Dec 1853.  I do not know where to begin as far as which church I can correspond with.

This same person was married in Keighley in 1879, with the marriage being solemnized in 'the parish church'.  The database in Ancestry where this record was pulled states that the marriage record is from: "This database contains images of Church of England marriage records and banns in registers from parishes in the West Yorkshire area of England."

The wife of this marriage is buried in the US in a Roman Catholic cemetery.

Thanks,

Ben


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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Keighley Pieman
« on: Thursday 23 May 13 02:53 BST (UK)  »
I tend to agree with your train of thought, however, the thing that is giving me pause in totally agreeing with you is the following sentence from The Yorkshire Evening Post 8 Jun 1897 "Yesterday morning, on leaving home, he made use of language suggesting that he might not come back."

Although I supposed if you are knowingly going to kill yourself, you wouldn't do so with money in your pocket when you are leaving a family behind who could definitely use it.


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