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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Saturday 31 January 15 12:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Nat is my great great grandfather and I am descended from his daughter, Alice Watson Langham (1854-1927).

FrankRC

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Thursday 09 August 12 18:09 BST (UK)  »
Dear Ben

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Kind regards

Frank

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Saturday 04 August 12 12:12 BST (UK)  »
Dear Ben

I visited Hinckley a few years ago to see my great great grandfather's birthplace but did not see any plaque to him.  I would really appreciate a photo please.

Kind regards

Frank

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Tuesday 09 August 11 07:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Willis

Charles Frederick Langham Calvett is my first cousin, once removed, who was born in Romford on 19 May 1918 and died in South Brighton, Adelaide,  South Australia on 20 Jul 2005; his eldest son, Michael Charles Langham Calvett, has been teaching English in Moscow for a number of years and suddenly died there last week.

Regards

Frank 

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Sunday 07 August 11 18:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Willis

Good try -  "Romeo" was used for some of his descendants but I was not one of them, although I have a male line to him.

Re Nat's mentor, Ben Caunt, I now know that he was one of five children (all boys) and now believe that Nat's mother-in-law is a cousin of Ben's wife via a Butler family link.  Are you in a position to shed any light on that?

Regards

Frank 

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Friday 22 July 11 10:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi Chrissy

I am a great grandson of Nat's daughter, Alice, and have posted information about Nat today.  How are you linked to him?

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Friday 22 July 11 08:28 BST (UK)  »
hi. Stephen Nathaniel Langham, father Nathaniel 1770 mother Mary 1787 have you got the @photo@ of him on boxing bill? not blood decendant, but he married in to the family. Know a lot from him down, on wifes side if interested

As Nat is my great great grandfather, I would be interested to know more about his wife, Elizabeth Watson.  I know that her marriage certificate shows her father as William Watson, slater and that her mother was probably a Caunt; William's siblings alive in Feb 1872 were William (living in the USA), Richard, Alice Mary, Christiana & Mary (source: Letters of Administration re Nat Langham).  I have a picture of the boxing poster issued after Nat's death, showing him in boxing pose with his fight records listed underneath.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Nat Langham 1820-1871
« on: Friday 22 July 11 08:15 BST (UK)  »
I joined today (22/7/2011) and am a great great grandson of Stephen Nathaniel Langham, Champion of the Middle Weights.  After he retired from boxing and became a licenced victualler, he married Elizabeth Watson on 10 Dec 1853 at St Martin in the Fields, Westminster (one of the witnesses was Ben Caunt, heavyweight champion boxer & Elizabeth's uncle).  Elizabeth never appeared in any census records as Nat's wife because she died from peritonitus on 3 Oct 1860 at their home at Cambrian Stores, 12 Castle Street (now Charing Cross Road), Westminster.  Cambrian Stores was a "fighting house" as evidenced by Nat's letters in The Times e.g. on 9/5/1860 (see The Times Digital Archives).

Nat and Elizabeth had two sons (both died during childhood, as evidenced by the first grant of Letters of Administration re Nat's estate in 1872) and two daughters, Alice (my great grandmother, who had eight children) and Elizabeth (she had one child with an unnamed father and the child died at age 1; she married a widower when she was 30 but had no children with him).

Nat's marriage certificate showed his father as Nathaniel Langham, framework knitter, but his father was really unknown - Nat's mother, Mary Langham was unmarried, although she had four children, including Ann Langham (1812-1897); Ann had her first two children with no known father(s), her next two with widower Joseph Looms and finally two more with Thomas Coley.

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