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Meath / Re: McCann's of "Eastmeath"
« on: Wednesday 17 April 13 12:09 BST (UK)  »
Eastmeath as a placename is little used nowadays except for elections when Co Meath becomes the onstituency of Eastmeath.   The 1821 census for the area shows a James McCann (26) and his wife Catherine (25) and daughter Mary (2) living in the mill house at Rathnally where he is described as "Millers Clerk".  The mill was owned by the Thompson family, the local landowners who lived in Rahnally House and the lessee at the time was John McCann who also had a wife named Catherine .  John McCann lived nearby on a farm in Kilcooly where they had 10 children, one named John but none named Margaret.  As far as I know James the miller's clerk and John the miller and farmer were not related.  Lots of McCanns in Eastmeath.  Best of luck but finding a place of brth is essential.

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Dublin / Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
« on: Saturday 23 February 13 16:23 GMT (UK)  »
My mother was one of that Scully family.  Here are the facts I got from her long ago.
Peter Aungier was born 1858 at Olney, Westminister Rd. Blackrock , Dublin.  He married 1881 Julia Scully, daughter of the famous or infamous William Scully by his first marriage to Margaret Sweetman, born in Illinois in 1853.  They had 3 children, Charles b. 1881, Gertrude d.y. 1882 and Julia b. 1884.  Her Scully family were living in Priory Lodge, Blackrock at that time.  She was born 1895 and I often heard her speak of Julia (Jun.) as a friend.  Julia (Scully) Aungier died in 1947 at Greystones, Co. Wicklow.  Peter died in 1914 she said but I could not find any documentation.  Was there some mystery about it ?  The Mary Peter was paying tennis with in 1879 seems to have been a sister as you suggest

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Kerry / Re: Visiting Co. Kerry: local advice sought!
« on: Saturday 23 February 13 14:21 GMT (UK)  »
Just a note on the above.  Griffith (1853) shows Mt.Prospect being vacant and in possesson of Dr Walter Murphy, one of the executors of John's will. (One of John's daughters had married Thadee Murphy of Killarney)   It is described as having a gate-lodge, stabling etc. clearly a Gentleman's residence.  Not a single Morphy in Ireland in the 1901 census or perhaps they had all been recorded as Murphys.  As for burials, the Gallweys are buried in Muckross Abbey, I presume Kilcummin for the Morphys.  Kilcummin is about 4 miles from Killarney on the Millstreet road.  If you have a large-scale map, look for the townland of Ballynamannagh

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Kerry / Re: Visiting Co. Kerry: local advice sought!
« on: Friday 22 February 13 15:57 GMT (UK)  »
I'm not surprised that Mount Prospect couldn't be found.  It was built by the Morphy family in the 18th century, it was occupied by a Walter Morphy in Grffith's valuation about 1850 but now no trace remains.  If anyone wants to visit the site it was in the townland of Ballynamaunagh in the civil parish of Kilcummin on the Krnmare estate.  The Morphys were middlemen on the estate, that is to say they leased large areas from the head landlord (Earl of Kenmare) and then rented it out to smaller tnants.  Three sons of the John Morphy who lived in Mt. Prospect emigrated to NSW in the 1830's and married 3 Styles sisters when they got there.  One of my great grandmothers was a Catherine Gallwey, a niece of the Charlotte who married John Morphy.  The Gallweys were Agents of the Kenmare estate for 3 generations.  The Gallweys were Catholic and the Morphys Protestant but there don't seem to have been any hard feelins all round.  I suppose you could class them all as half-gentry.

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Tipperary / Re: Alleyne of Golden, Tipperary
« on: Monday 19 March 12 11:19 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry, can't find any trace of another Alleyne/Pennefather marriagge.  As a rule these gentry families were careful to register their marriage settlements.  I see a William Ryan of Ballymackeogh (big Tipp. landowners, your Ryans I'm sure) m. Anne Pennefather in 1814.  If you want photostats of the original Alleyne/Ryan deeds I mentioned here's what you must do.  E-mail rodquery "at" prai.ie, put Copy Memorial - Att. Philomena Brant in Subject Box and tell her you want copies of 292-362-190908 dated 16 july 1769 and 367-71-245901 dated 10 jan.1785.  These are property deeds so probably not of much genealogical interest.The Alleyne/Pennefather marriage articles are voluminous and take up 2 documents.  Much info. there  Nos. are 223-618-150481 and 150482.
They charge 20 euros for each copy (inc. postage) so have your credit card handy.

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Tipperary / Re: Alleyne of Golden, Tipperary
« on: Sunday 18 March 12 12:58 GMT (UK)  »
Some confusion over the Alleyne/Pennefather Marriage.  Marriage articles dated 19 Feb. 1763, MLB index also gives 1763 as the year.  Son was Samuel Richard, only 2 daus. that  know of,Charity who m. Michael Greene,1790 and S of Parfone Co. Meath in 1794.   Never came across any Elinor but date 1782  for death of Pennefather mother seems right.  Samuel m. again in 1796 to Belinda Johnston, a widow.  Came across a couple of Alleyne/Ryan deeds in the Registry dated 1761 and 1769.
Limerick Evening Post,Wed. 28 Feb. 1816 M. by the rev. W.E, Lloyd at Golden Church, James Fogarty Esq. Jun. of Cabra Castle to Miss Alleyne dau. of the late John Alkeyne Esq. of Golden.  (Her name was Mary Anne, the Miss  implies she wasa eldest Dau.)

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Tipperary / Re: Alleyne of Golden, Tipperary
« on: Tuesday 28 February 12 09:37 GMT (UK)  »
Alleyne/Pennefather marriage definitely 1763.  John Alleyne and son Samuel are 2 of the 7 parties to it.
Earliest ref. I can find to John Sen. is a deed dated April 1751 which mentions John (eldest son who m. Mary Hyde 1768) Samuel (2nd. son) and John Wise of Limerick, his nephew.
Samuel's will was dated early 1815.
Southern Register was a newspaper which carried a death notice for Samuel Richard in 1826 (issue 26 Feb. 1826)

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Tipperary / Re: Alleyne of Golden, Tipperary
« on: Monday 27 February 12 10:22 GMT (UK)  »
Re ancestors of Samuel Alleyne who married Charity Pennefather in 1763.
Limerick Chronicle 1783 p.o. 16 Jan. Died in 80th year John Alleyne Esq. of Golden.  So John was born 1704.  Alleynes war English Protestant Planter family brought to Ireland mid 17th cent.  John was father of Samuel who married Charity Pennefather o Newpark in 1763.  The Alleyne/Pennefather marrige settlemen contains a grat deal of information on the Alleyne property in Tipperary. The  no. is 223-618-150481/2 if anyone would like to order a photostat copy from thr Registry of Deeds in Dublin. Samuel had one son Samuel Richard and 2 daus.  He died 1815 leaving £200 to his "ungrateful son". Samuel Richard  Alleyne (Southern Reg. Thurs 16 Feb 1821) At the Inn of Tipperary on Sat. Samuel Richard Alleyne of Golden only son of late Alleyne Esq. of Golden and formerly a Captain in H.M. 11 Regt. of Foot.  He had m.  twice. In 1801 to Annabel Childe, div. 1805 then 1812 to Jane Quir in Braddon IOM.  The rest you know.

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Tipperary / Re: Alleyne of Golden, Tipperary
« on: Friday 16 December 11 16:24 GMT (UK)  »
A short history of Cooprevane estate.  John Alleyne said to be "of Coolprebane" when he married Mary Hyde in 1768. He was living there in 1774 (see Mortgage of Templenoe).  Renewed lease from Head Landlord (Atkins) 1779.   Left estate (500 acres Irish = 772 statute) to son Samuel who never actually lived there.  He was an attorney with his office in Tipperary town.  Conveyed estate to son John 1833 at rent of £180 Irish currency.  Lease renewed 1841 on death of Samuel, last of 3 lives by Ellen Alleyne, who conveyed it to nephew Samuel, son of her brother William, just in time for the Famine disaster.  By 1860 Samuel was in serious financial trouble.  In October 1860 he married Margaret Cowen, marriage settlement pledged Coolprevane to the executors of Settlement.  In 1865 Margaret's father Joseph was suing him for non-performance, Samuel went to the US and enlisted in the 33rd Regt.  Back in Dubln by 1870 he was being sued by Philip Russell, farmer of Coolprevane, next move to France.  Estate sold 1872 in Encumbered Estates Court.  Census of 1901 shows him in Waterford, occupation "Weighmaster".  Census of 1911 his son Samuel aged 28 occupation "garden Labourer".  Sad story !

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