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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Early settlers in Ohariu Valley "COMPLETED"
« on: Tuesday 13 February 18 03:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the update, everyone! I'll just continue on with my relation, Caroline Whittaker. 
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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Early settlers in Ohariu Valley "COMPLETED"
« on: Friday 09 February 18 12:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paganlynny, I have just found your question. I have been visiting the Ohariu Valley area lately, as my husband's 3rd Gt Grandmother, Caroline Aston (nee Whittaker) is buried in the cemetery of the little Holy Trinity Church, Ohariu. It is a beautiful little building, and the residents have raised $100,000 in recent years to restore the church. It features sheep in the cemetery, who keep the grass down. We are in the process of arranging the restoration of our family's grave. I didn't notice a gravestone for your relation, but we are going down to Wellington again on 5 February, so we might pop out there and have a look. The church is still in use, albeit just monthly services, I believe. If you google it, you might see a photo of it. I have attached a photo from the early 1900s. The grave with the picket fence is our family's grave. Contrary to someone's comment, there is quite a lot going on in the valley. Lots of equestrian schools, and a great place to have weekend brunch, The Saddleback Cafe. (named after one of our NZ native birds). It's very beautiful, and there is a lot of house building going on, and many beautiful big houses on lifestyle blocks as well as farms.
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Lower Chapman Street
« on: Sunday 21 July 13 14:01 BST (UK) »
Would anyone know the origins of the name Lower or Upper Chapman Street, Tower Hamlets, London? I have Chapman relations who lived in this area, and I was intrigued by the name.
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Lanarkshire / Re: Family don't appear in any census
« on: Monday 29 April 13 11:20 BST (UK) »
Wow! Such a lot to take in. So where do the Bradys fit in? Never heard of them till now! Also the McLeans? So the Mellons were related - that would explain how the adoption was arranged, perhaps. It would be good to be able to trace things back to Ireland, wouldn't it?
Any photos you might be able to share with me would be fantastic! Who knows, I might see family likenesses. My family tree stuff is on Ancestry.com.au under MrsChappie56. I have stuff on Scotlands People too, of course, that's a great site.
On my Grandfather, Robert Brogan's side, (he married Betsy Mellon (McClafferty), the family go back to Ireland too. We are pretty sure we will visit the UK next (northern) summer, and it would be great to be able to take a trip over to Ireland to find entries in church records, but hard to know where to start. All I have for my Brogan connection is "Donegal". It's a big place!
Regards, Jane
Any photos you might be able to share with me would be fantastic! Who knows, I might see family likenesses. My family tree stuff is on Ancestry.com.au under MrsChappie56. I have stuff on Scotlands People too, of course, that's a great site.
On my Grandfather, Robert Brogan's side, (he married Betsy Mellon (McClafferty), the family go back to Ireland too. We are pretty sure we will visit the UK next (northern) summer, and it would be great to be able to take a trip over to Ireland to find entries in church records, but hard to know where to start. All I have for my Brogan connection is "Donegal". It's a big place!
Regards, Jane
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Lanarkshire / Re: Family don't appear in any census
« on: Wednesday 17 April 13 14:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, Maureen
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Lanarkshire / Re: Family don't appear in any census
« on: Wednesday 17 April 13 12:28 BST (UK) »
I shall have to do some more investigation on Helena McClafferty. Not sure if she is the one who went to USA. Her father died in 1913, and I have the feeling I saw her mentioned on his death cert, but strangely I can't log on to Scotland's People tonight, a problem with login feature. I will check that, but of course, that wouldn't rule her out for emigration in 1914, so that's something to think about Thanks for that!
Jane
Thanks for that!Jane
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Lanarkshire / Re: Family don't appear in any census
« on: Wednesday 17 April 13 12:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Forfarian, for your comments, very helpful I put you wrong there, with the name. Her name was Betsy Mellon McClafferty, sorry, I got confused! I actually found her on the 1911 census in the end, as the adopted daughter of John & Sophia Mellon, but on the census form they were mistakenly called "Mullon". My Auntie Bridie told me just a short while ago that the Mellons had a boy who was killed in an accident, and Sophia was devastated. Shortly after that they adopted my grandmother Betsy. They were an older couple when they got married. I am eagerly awaiting the next census to do some more sleuthing!
I put you wrong there, with the name. Her name was Betsy Mellon McClafferty, sorry, I got confused! I actually found her on the 1911 census in the end, as the adopted daughter of John & Sophia Mellon, but on the census form they were mistakenly called "Mullon". My Auntie Bridie told me just a short while ago that the Mellons had a boy who was killed in an accident, and Sophia was devastated. Shortly after that they adopted my grandmother Betsy. They were an older couple when they got married. I am eagerly awaiting the next census to do some more sleuthing!
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Lanarkshire / Re: Family don't appear in any census
« on: Tuesday 16 April 13 09:19 BST (UK) »
Me again! I just thought of something - If Francis was your Gt Grandfather, well his sister Helena was my Gt Grandmother, by birth, so we must be some sort of cousin, goodness knows how far removed
Jane
Jane
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Lanarkshire / Re: Family don't appear in any census
« on: Tuesday 16 April 13 09:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken, Thanks for your reply, we must be ever so slightly related!!! Yes, I have been busy on Ancestry, and have found out quite a bit about the McClafferty family. That is definitely my Grandma Betsy's birth family. AND - I found her on a 1911 census, there was a mistake with the name - she was adopted by John Mellon and his wife Sophia Arthur Logan. In the 1911 census, their surname was listed as "Mullon", which of course confused the issue for me. But, finally, there she was, an infant of 2 yrs of age, and it even listed her as "Adptd daughter", which really confirmed it for me. Also, my mother's name was Sophia, and she said she had been named for her grandmother, so bingo once again I have found quite a bit from census forms on Scotland's People, but it would be just amazing if you have more personal details and could fill in some of the human side of things. I have been puzzling out just how Betsy (Bessie) was put out for adoption, my Auntie Bridie, who is my mother's sister, reckons it was through a catholic adoption society, which could be true. I also think that Helena had an illegitimate child in 1905, called Annie, after her mother, Annie Dwyer. For some reason she adopted out the 2nd one, Betsy, born in 1909. This was the family in 1891
Transcription of text in document16 Market St. 4 rooms with one or more windows.
James McClafferty Head Mar 35 Tramcar Driver Employed born: Donegal, Ireland G & E
Annie " Wife " 32 Limerick, Ireland
Helen " Dau S 8 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarks
Patrick " Son S 6 " "
Francis " " S 5 " "
Hugh " " S 16 mths "
John " Brother S 26 Publican Employed on own account Donegal, Ireland G & E
William Bradley Boarder S 24 Tramcar Driver Employed "
John McClafferty Jnr " S 23 Labourer " " G & E
Thomas Marron " S 27 Tramcar Conductor " Monaghan, Ireland
Michael Connolly " S 25 Labourer - Printers " "
Francis Fulton " Widower 50 Herbalist Employed on own account England
It's interesting to note that James McClafferty, his brother John McClafferty, and their boarder, John McClafferty Jnr (maybe a cousin?) all hail from Donegal, and all speak both gaelic and english. James' wife Annie (Dwyer) from Limerick, does not speak gaelic.
These are the sort of facts I love, they start to give you some insight into the person's character.
It's fascinating that Francis went to America. The way all these families spread out is incredible.
I would be very glad to hear of any information you have about the McClaffertys!
Regards, Jane
I have found quite a bit from census forms on Scotland's People, but it would be just amazing if you have more personal details and could fill in some of the human side of things. I have been puzzling out just how Betsy (Bessie) was put out for adoption, my Auntie Bridie, who is my mother's sister, reckons it was through a catholic adoption society, which could be true. I also think that Helena had an illegitimate child in 1905, called Annie, after her mother, Annie Dwyer. For some reason she adopted out the 2nd one, Betsy, born in 1909. This was the family in 1891Transcription of text in document16 Market St. 4 rooms with one or more windows.
James McClafferty Head Mar 35 Tramcar Driver Employed born: Donegal, Ireland G & E
Annie " Wife " 32 Limerick, Ireland
Helen " Dau S 8 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarks
Patrick " Son S 6 " "
Francis " " S 5 " "
Hugh " " S 16 mths "
John " Brother S 26 Publican Employed on own account Donegal, Ireland G & E
William Bradley Boarder S 24 Tramcar Driver Employed "
John McClafferty Jnr " S 23 Labourer " " G & E
Thomas Marron " S 27 Tramcar Conductor " Monaghan, Ireland
Michael Connolly " S 25 Labourer - Printers " "
Francis Fulton " Widower 50 Herbalist Employed on own account England
It's interesting to note that James McClafferty, his brother John McClafferty, and their boarder, John McClafferty Jnr (maybe a cousin?) all hail from Donegal, and all speak both gaelic and english. James' wife Annie (Dwyer) from Limerick, does not speak gaelic.
These are the sort of facts I love, they start to give you some insight into the person's character.
It's fascinating that Francis went to America. The way all these families spread out is incredible.
I would be very glad to hear of any information you have about the McClaffertys!
Regards, Jane