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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Ulcombe parish records
« on: Monday 24 October 16 22:52 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Grandarog, I will have a try there.
Annie x

Did you have any luck tracing back earlier than John Ledger / Sarah Gates? I'm descended from them too (my 6xgt grandparents), but rarely get back to England these days so not easily able to access the library records.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Decendants of Edwin Charles Purdie
« on: Friday 11 March 16 21:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nigelo

A little late to the party but I was alerted to this thread by a friend and thought I'd jump in.

My name is John Campbell Purdie. My great grandfather, Edward John Purdie was Edwin's nephew. Although I don't have a daily role in E J Purdie & Son Ltd I am still very much involved. I worked out of our Lancaster Road EN4 8 AP site for almost 20 years.

Hello John. Nice to hear from you. I was actually in touch with your father, Jack, about 8 years ago.

You are welcome to look at my family site (www.our-families.info). you can contact me from there too.

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Monday 19 October 15 23:23 BST (UK)  »
I thought on the 1861 it says Charles and Elizabeth, with their 3 children aged 4 and 2 years and 1 month.
No, not unless you are looking at a different census page to me. Just Charles and Elizabeth, living in High Street, Tonbridge. They do have a lodger (my assumption - actual relationship not recorded) "William Thomas, unmarried, 46yrs, Labourer, born Croydon".
If you do have a different census page let me know. We should sort out the correct one.

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Sunday 18 October 15 23:37 BST (UK)  »
There was no Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland in Patrick Quinn's time- all Ireland was part of the U.K. It was the custom for policemen not to be posted in the county of their birth and if married/upon marriage not to be posted in the county where their wife was born. So, if Jane Quinn was born in Fermanagh it's likely that both her parents were born, and possibly married, elsewhere.
Thanks. That's useful background I wasn't ware of.

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Sunday 18 October 15 23:00 BST (UK)  »
I was also looking today for the marriage of Charles Smitherman to Elizabeth but can only find Charles smitherman marrying jane Quinn in 1866: their daughter Susan was born in 1865 . . .  Couldn't find the death of Elizabeth either.  It must have been a hard life - poor Mary onion, with Richard dying the year Mary Ann was born and then dying herself when Charles and Eliza were so young - then he being in the alms house with his grandmother when he was 13.  I wonder what happened to Elizabeth and the 3 children and was he a widower, as it states on his wedding certificate . . . 

Hi. Yes Elizabeth is a puzzle. All we know is that she said (1861 census) she was born in Holloway (Middx) around 1832. But I've never found a match for her there (yet). On a visit to Tonbridge I did check burials there with the council, but no luck with that either. So whether she did actually marry Charles (or just lived with him) is hard to say. But interestingly, I can't find him anywhere on the 1851 census, so perhaps he spent some time in London?? Maybe Eliza returned home and died there??? Not that I've found any evidence for that either.

One correction though - Charles and Elizabeth had no children that I know of. Daughter Susan was actually Charles and Jane's child, born before their marriage. I have Susan's birth certificate. Charles and Jane had 7 children. Not sure who you are referring to in your comment " I wonder what happened to Elizabeth and the 3 children ".

I ordered the marriage certificate of Ellen allin and William Curtis for Gravesend 1876 - you may have done this.
I haven't. Does it confirm they are the right couple?

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Sunday 18 October 15 20:53 BST (UK)  »
There is another Belleek(s) in NI. It is in Co. Armagh and also one in Mayo. Hope this might be of some help.
Thanks. Though I would never rule them out, based on the limited information we have, mainly from census records (see my first post in this thread) the Fermanagh Belleek is the most likely.

I could ask 'Eamon' - our local Newsletter, he knows just about everyone and their family.
Any help would always be very gratefully received  ;)

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Sunday 18 October 15 19:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Debbie

Yes I did visit Beleek. A beautiful place, but sadly with no information whatsoever about Jane. There is a Mary Quinn of an age that could have made her Jane's mother living in the area (shown on the Griffith's Valuations), but no proof she is actually related in any way.

I also visited the Belfast archives (PRONI) and spend a day burrowing through all their relevant records, but still came up empty.

Since then (2009) I've monitored every available new release of online Irish records. Plenty of mentions for QUIN / QUINN but as yet nothing that obviously fits with our family. So to date I'm no further forward.

I note your comment " Patrick Quinn wasn't listed as officially in the police.  ", but does that cover the English, Northern Irish AND Eireann police forces?  Beleek is right on the border so there's every possibility they originated in Eire.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: 1935 Electoral Roll
« on: Wednesday 27 February 13 04:49 GMT (UK)  »
You will only be able to search on the information that is indexed. You can tell what that is by the information displayed when you click on an entry.

For Electoral rolls that means:

Name
Electoral Year
District
Region or Province

I suspect kiwihalfpint's success may have been from the location used being also the district.

How useful it is will therefore depend on how many people there are in that District, and therefore how many pages of results you need to scroll through. It should be quicker than going through the originals page by page though.

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Kent / Re: Lamberhurst Marriage
« on: Monday 31 December 12 11:32 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry if I am being silly but aren't Lamberhurst and Gouldhurst in Kent?

To quote from Google:
"Until 1894 the Kent and East Sussex boundary ran through the village [Lamberhurst], when it was decided that the village must belong to either one county or the other. As hop growing was the main industry of the day, and hops in Kent were fetching a better price than in Sussex, Lamberhurst became part of Kent.

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