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Ireland / Re: SWITZER family
« on: Saturday 15 September 18 03:22 BST (UK)  »
To Laurie50; Jack 2227; and Maggsie thanks for your input into my enquiry re name Switzer. I have been away from the boards for some months but am now back.
To Myrakeay I am interested in what you have.  I too live in Queensland.  Please advise how I can get in touch.  Can you private message me please.  The lady I am looking for is Mary Ann Adelaide Switzer whose parents were Eugene and Catherine Switzer.
Lesley

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Dear cuffie I don’t know how to find PM,  can you advise please.
Lesley

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]b] Thank you all for your input to this elusive family.  Most especially, Cuffie81 who has summarised the whole thing for me.  [/size]  Thank you so much.  Please excuse any errors you find as it is hard to see.   So, if Thomas (father) was born circa 1788 and Elizabeth ?? (mother) was born 1791 - Thomas would have been 25 thereabouts  and Elizabeth 22 years when Thomas was born in 1813.  They could have been married anytime around 1810 -1813.  Thomas would have been around 22 and Elizabeth 19 years.   I guess Elizabeth's maiden name will remain unknown.   At some time in the future I will have to consider looking at purchasing Thomas' birth if that is possible seeing as how it is before registration started.  Any comments regarding the birth record back then would be appreciated.
I just thought I would add to the summary that Cuffie provided, my late husband's great grandfather, Charles Read born 23 December 1829, spent his life from 15 years to 29 as a Mariner until he came to Sydney Australia where he married.   You may find this interesting that once married in Sydney he bought a store right in the middle of Sydney City in George Street.  This store as a Department store selling:
Carpets, Linoleum, Matting, Stair hessians, Leather Cloth; Lace curtains, Damask, Trimmings, bedding and upholstery.  So he more or less followed the family line but widened the content of his store.  Unfortunately, the story goes he gambled it all away. 

Cuffie I have copied your summary to pass onto anyone in this family who feels the need to find their roots.   Again, thank you all for your help.

Until I can see properly, I feel I must give the small screen a miss for awhile.    Thank you all very much.
Lesley


 

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To all the wonderful people in Rootschat who are helping me....I apologise for not being here to chat but I have been down with Bronchitis and also have issues with cataracts so finding it hard to read the board.  Please bear with me and I will check out the entries and get back to you with comments.
I just saw something about the Simpson line I think from Cuffie and was wondering about that line.  I did contact the Legassick family and the lady replied to me and her name was Simpson (nee Legassick) and it appears that the Legassick line is not related BUT I am now wondering if this lady is related to the Elizabeth Ann Read of Wilks street, whose father was Thomas Read and mother Elizabeth.  If someone has time to check out this Simpson line further we may have something.  I guess though that it does not bring us back to Thomas and Elizabeth.  We may have to let them go. Lesley.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« on: Tuesday 26 December 17 01:35 GMT (UK)  »
 :) To all the researchers helping me find the maiden name of the elusive Elizabeth Read I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas.  Please make sure that you are safe on New Years Eve too.

Now Cuffie I have gone through all your information of births and marriages with most being after the date of my Charles Read in 1829 with christening in 1830.  This then has led me back to the Thomas and Elizabeth who had 4 children in the Wilks(es) street area.

Then: another 5 children in Wilmot Street Bethnal Green.

We know for sure and certain that Thomas READ (father of the children in Bethnal Green was a weaver.  I cannot remember for sure but I think in some of the Census' Elizabeth the wife and Jane the daughter said their occupation was that of weaver! 

Putting aside the 4 children from Wilks Street, the first of the Bethnal Green children would be James William READ in 1825.  BUT there is no marriage in that time frame.   Were they married?? Would they have had 5 children without being married?  The other 4 children from Wilks Street seem to fit into a possible marriage.  BUT then how many Thomas READ's would be weavers??

One of you told me that Death records do not show the names of the parents.  How about Birth records?  I have Charles' baptism record and all it says is son of Thomas and Elizabeth.  I guess because it all happened prior to 1837 we will never know.

Getting back to the Legassick family.....I am waiting on a lady from Somerset who has researched the Legassick family, she comes from the Simpson family and when time permits she will send me her research on the Thomas Read who married Elizabeth Wilks Legassick.    I found that a Henry Legassick married an Elizabeth Wilks.  I have copied a couple of sentences from the Legassick story for you all to look at and consider.

"A certain Elizabeth Wilks Legassick is shown as a possible daughter of the William who married in 1801.  She appears to have witnessed (using her married name) the marriage of William Legassick (Jnr.) at St. Martin in the Fields in 1822, the year following her own marriage to Thomas Read at the same church.  Interestingly at St. Giles Church, Oxford, in 1800 a Henry Legassicke of unknown origins had married a lady named Elizabeth Wilkes.  Surely there is a connection here.  If this Henry was the man born in Sherford in 1767 as mentioned above, then was William of Soho (m.1801) his younger brother, born in Dodbrooke in 1772?  Or, was the lady who married Thomas Read in 1821 the widow of Henry?  These hypotheses are essentially no more than wild guesses."

As soon as I have the lady from Somerset's research I will post here for consideration.

Thanks again for your help

Lesley









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Thanks John, after saying Thomas Read’s parents were William and Sarah, I re-read your post and then wondered if Sarah Read’s first husband William died then she married secondly William Parker.

Lesley

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« on: Saturday 23 December 17 23:37 GMT (UK)  »

Jonw65:  I forgot to ask what is the date 21 November 1821 related to?

Lelley

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« on: Saturday 23 December 17 23:36 GMT (UK)  »

Good morning Jonw65.  That is very interesting that you have found William READ and Sarah Parker.  A friend had found a baptism for a Thomas Read with parents William and Sarah. 

Could I ask one thing, in the last line of your post it seems that the surnames have been reversed. i.e. William Parker and Sarah READ.   I am confused.  Help please.

Lesley

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« on: Saturday 23 December 17 16:19 GMT (UK)  »

Oh my goodness Cuffie81, thank you so much for all that work you have looked up.   I am sorry that I keep on about Elizabeth Wilkes Legassick,  I know this is silly, but the name fascinated me.  I liked her as I had found her married to a Thomas Read in the research by Richard Grylls on the Legassick family tree.  If you are so inclined google "Richard Grylls Legassick" and his site comes up and if you scroll down to London 1 Thomas and Elizabeth appear.  She being the daughter of William Legassick and Ann Snow.

I am now leaning toward Elizabeth Howard......BUT that said, I think someone stated not this lady.

Anyway, this list of names etc. will keep me busy over Christmas.  Again Cuffie81 thanks for all the hard work, especially typing it all up.

Best wishes to you all
Lesley

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