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Inverness / Re: McGillivray, McDonald, McKinnon
« on: Sunday 12 February 17 04:43 GMT (UK)  »
So, I have an update,

It appears there are two similar Archibald MacGillivray and Janet McDonad Families living on Skye in the 1830's.

My family line is:

Archibald Hugh MacGillivray + Janet MacDonald, from Aird, Sleat, Skye.
they have the children as per above post and also another Child John born c 1840's in Victoria Australia. This Family apparently travelled on the William Nichol in 1836 to Sydney. Margaret aged 2 died at sea.

They are a different family to the family that travelled on the Henry Porcher in 1840.
This family had different siblings and appear to come from Barravaig (which I think is near Loch Bharabhaig??).
 
Hopefully this may help anyone else researching either of these families and may shed some light on parental lines.

I have been advised that my Janet McDonald was from Glencoe, but again I have not been able to verify this with a cert or record.

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Midlothian / Re: Mitchell Patison S.S.C burial / grave inscripton
« on: Saturday 05 November 16 02:06 GMT (UK)  »
 :o

Thank-you everyone for posting, I'm very intrigued by these files, and the references to his inefficiencies, difficulties and troubles mentioned in some other posts here, it appears I have a lot more research to undertake so I am able to understand what happened.

Thank you for everyone's interest, this just gets more and more interesting!!



 

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Midlothian / Re: Mitchell Patison S.S.C burial / grave inscripton
« on: Tuesday 01 November 16 20:58 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, thanks so much everyone,

as I'm back at work this week I will take some time on the weekend to have a look at the links posted.

I really appreciate everyone's help with this, I think we are on the right track, I'm going to try and find out more about Mitchell's death, it will be very interesting to try and find out his cause of death.

I'm also really fascinated by the pottery - that's incredible!

Thanks again everyone - I will post again once I have checked some of the details provided :-)

Happy Wednesday!

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Midlothian / Re: Mitchell Patison S.S.C burial / grave inscripton
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 06:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Annie,

Just double checking a couple of things, I'm prone to typo's - especially with a 2 year old running around :-)

Yes date of first marriage should be 1820, and I copied the census info from an old email sent to me, your additional info here has me wondering if I have the right family as my direct ancestor David Wilson Patison was born 19 Nov 1840 (as per family search) but he is not present on the 1841 census and neither is his older sister Helen / Ellen.

I have just checked David's death cert. it notes the following:

Died 18 March 1912, Farmer, Male 70 yrs (which makes birth year c 1842), Cause of death was Cerebral Haemorrhage / Coma 2 1/2 years, Father Mitchell Patison, Lawyer, Helen Patison formerly Wilson, born Edinburgh Scotland and 58 years .Victoria (making immigration c 1584), Married Euphemia McGillivray at Port Campbell VIC 30 years.

David and Euphemias Marriage cert states (23rd of October 1873):

David Wilson Patison, Bachelor of Edinburgh, Edinburghshire, Farmer, aged 31 (also makes birth year c 1842), living Cororrock, son of Mitchell Patison Barrister and Helen Wilson to Euphemia McGillivray, Spinster, born Melbourne, living with parents at Peterborough, Daughter of Archibald McGillivray, Farmer and Jessie McDonald.

All other info I have for Mitchell comes from other shared trees, hmm, I'm stuck.

Thank you also for posting the gravestone pictures, no luck yet, but I'll take a closer look soon.

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Inverness / Re: McGillivray, McDonald, McKinnon
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 04:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Annie,

I love the Sleat webpage, I have found a potential line of research via the Clan MacGillivray Society Australia - It's so interesting, I can't wait to learn more.

I'm hoping to be able to 100% confirm my direct ancestors came from skye and are related to the Clans there.

Thank you for your research :-)

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Midlothian / Mitchell Patison S.S.C burial / grave inscripton
« on: Sunday 30 October 16 01:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Rootschatters,

Hoping someone may be able to locate a tombstone or info relating to Mitchell Patison who was buried at St Cuthberts, name may be, Mitchell Pattison, S.S.C, died 1847 January 9.

Some background information I already have that may assist or help others;

Mitchell Patison  Born 11/12/1796  Edinburgh  S/O John Patison and Maisy Brown,

Married 1. Mary Bryce on Aug 1. 1920, Only issue known John Mitchell Patison Born C1830 - died 1876, Mary died Dec 9 1835. (Marriage Mitchell Pattison to Mary Bryce, with banns called in Edinburgh and St Cuthberts parishes on 21 Jul 1820 and 1 Aug 1820, respectively.)

Married 2.    Helen Wilson  Born 1807 (Bunkle & Preston, Berwickshire) D/O George Wilson and Helen Mitchell Berkshire (Berwickshire?)  Scotland.  Marriage for them occurred on 1 Jun 1837 in Edinburgh parish, Edinburgh.  Helen died Victoria c 1857, Children Helen, George, David and Mary.

1.    Helen Born C1838  Dalkeith   Died 11-6-1855 aged 17 years  aboard the Tay off the coast of South Africa, On the death certificate she is the D/O Mitchell Patison and Mother unknown. interesting given her mother Helen Patison was also onboard the Tay. Baptisim record is for Ellen Mitchell Patison, daughter of Mitschell Patison and Eleanora Mitchell Wilson being
baptised on 25 Mar 1838 at St Cuthberts parish, Edinburgh.

2. George is Baptised Jul 3 1839, St Cuthberts Edinburgh, Mothers full name is recorded at Eleanora Mitchell Patison. George marries Elizabeth McGuiness, dies Victoria 1898.

3. David Wilson Patison is Baptised 19 Nov 1840 at St Cuthberts Edinburgh, marries Euphemia McGillivray 23 Oct 1873 in Peterborough VIC and Dies 1912 in Drouin VIC

4. Mary Brown is Baptised Jul 5 1843 at St Cuthberts, Marries James Mitchell Aug 22 1867 in Woodford Vic, and dies 1901 in Warracknabeal Vic.

1841 census also has:

Name: Mitchell Patison
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland
       
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: Vine Park
Occupation: Solicitor S C
Parish Number: 685/2

Household Members:         
Name                   Age
Mitchell Patison      40
Ellenora Patison      30
John Patison           11
George Patison        1
Jane Torrance         15
Mary Conway          15
-----------------------
Daniel Murray         35
Ann Murray            30
Alexander Gifford    50
Catherine Gifford     45
Adam Gifford          15
Catherine Gifford     14
Jane Dickson           20

Thanks everyone in advance :-)

Tanya in Australia

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Inverness / McGillivray, McDonald, McKinnon
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 01:12 BST (UK)  »
Hello Rootschatters,

Hoping someone may be able to assist in determining if my ancestors are from the Isle of Skye and if there is any further research documents for them (birth, marriage, death etc).

I have an Archibald McGillivray born c. 1805 (father noted on death cert (index) as Charles)
who married Janet (Jeanette/Jessie) McDonald c1830 (Janet's death cert (index)mentions parents as Mary McKinnon and Archi McDonald).

Other researchers have given the following details but I'm not sure how accurate it is given there is no citations (but here it is as it may help);
Archibald Hugh MacGillivary. Born 1805, Isle of Skye, father Charles b.1780
Janet McDonald born 1800, Isle of Skye to Mary Mckinnon b. 1780, Archibald McDonald b.1780

At some stage the family immigrates to Australia (possibly on the Henry Porscher in 1840) and they settle in Peterborough region (a small port town in South West Victoria, as farmers. they are buried at the Port Campbell Cemetery which is very close to the tourist trail known as the Great Ocean Rd where the Twelve apostles are (limestone stacks - very beautiful). This area is known as the Shipwreck Coast.

My research on the children of this family is as follows:

Margaret c.1836 Scotland (Skye?)
Anne c 1836 Scotland (Skye?), marries John McLeod, d 1926 Kew (Melbourne Vic)
Donald c. 1839 (birth registered in Vic 1842)
Duncan c. 1839 (birth registered in Vic 1842)
Charles 1841 (birth registered in Vic in 1842, noted as McGillioray with note attached brothers christened on same day) marries Janet/Jessie McDonald, dies 1915 at Peterborough, Death index notes born in Elizabeth St, Melbourne (now part of the CBD).
Mary b. 1847 Vic marries Alexander Ross.
Euphemia b. 1848 (Melbourne, noted on Marriage cert), marries David Wilson Patison (1840 Scotland - 1912 Ballangreich, near Warrnambool VIC) and dies 1897 in Ballangreich.

I have wondered if Donald and Duncan were born at sea, but then there is no record under the Victorian birth records for born at sea. Alternatively the family migrated out earlier and the birth records are lost or given Donald, Duncan and Charles were christened the same day, perhaps they lived to far from a registration office?? (although it appears they were in Melbourne for a time).

Hmm, hoping someone may have some answers or perhaps ideas on where to go next.

My ancestors are Euphemia and David Patison. They go onto have 8 children. I have some birth / death certificates for these family members.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Tanya in Brisbane, Australia.

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Somerset / Re: Radstock well way pit coal disaster 1839
« on: Sunday 29 May 16 00:21 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to everyone who has shared their links and other research including all the pictures, this has been a very insightful journey.

Happy Families!

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Guernsey Look up request for ROBILLIARD
« on: Wednesday 17 December 14 21:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ringrose,

Thank you for suggesting both sites, I have utilised both of these resources but unfortunately I have not been able to find anything for James and Marie.

I have been able to confirm Henry's family including information on his 20 Children :-) via the baptisim records online from these sites (which was a fantastic breakthrough) and the 1841, 1851 and 1861 census, but given James died prior to the census I am a bit stuck now.

I believe I will have to search the Parish records in Guernsey but given my location and the potential cost involved I am hoping there may be another way to first confirm I have the correct ancestors prior to purchasing any certificates or engaging professional searches.

Thanks so much for your suggestion :-) I look forward to hearing any more tips anyone may have, as it certainly helps to know I am on the right track :-)

Tanya

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