just found army records for a henry doran shankill armagh ,he joined in 1910 ( which would be why he isnt in armagh in 1911 census ) the papers are very damaged but i could see his address as brown st lurgan when he joined aged 25yrs ,he received a certificate in 1918 to an address ending in ring st lurgan cant see the first part of the street name (his son williams birth reg is waring st lurgan in 1917 ),his next of kin where brother william and another brother but cant see his name the henry i believe is mine had two elder brothers first william and second patrick .So i am now certain that Henary doran in brown st lurgan in 1901 census is the one i'm looking for thanks for your help everyone