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United States of America / Re: Sarah Georgina & Cyril George Murphy b.1908
« on: Tuesday 11 September 12 23:31 BST (UK)  »
Sandra,

Because of all the solid links and data provided via Rootschat, I was able to cleanup several parts of the family tree I have been working on for several years.  Although it is still a work in progress, I have made it public. I continue not only to work backward in time, but to build a good data trail, and prune and refine as needed.

Lisa
Patrell-Fazio family tree 

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The Common Room / Electoral Register
« on: Friday 07 September 12 15:45 BST (UK)  »
I am in need of a bit of education.
Is an electoral register a record of placing a vote or a record of who is eligible to vote?

I recently found a name of an great-great-grandmother on a 1921 electoral registry ten years after I thought I had found the correct death date.  The woman listed on electoral registry is definitely my ancestor, as the last known address, husband name, and youngest son's name are defining parameters.

Thank you in advance. ???

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Canada / Re: Sarah Georgina & Cyril George Murphy b.1908
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 18:10 BST (UK)  »
You found the right George H Murphy.  At one time he was an apprentice engineer, then on a following census he was a plumber.  Perhaps, this was the cause of the fissure with his father.

In the states he continued to be a plumber, primarily with new commericial construction.  Detroit was boomtown then.  I am assuming that he met his future son-in-law on the job, because he was plumber as well, and had a hand plumbing many of the new buildings popping up in the metropolis.

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Canada / Re: Sarah Georgina & Cyril George Murphy b.1908
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 18:05 BST (UK)  »
Dear Polar Bear,

This looks like solid information.  Can you provide the citation for the record? I love a paper trail!

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Staffordshire / Re: Ralph Brindley bap 05Aug1745 of L.End, Staffordshire
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 17:09 BST (UK)  »
Deeply grateful to you, for the details, the records, and a resource that is new to me, freereg.org.uk.       

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Occupation Interests / Re: what is "portmanbeau" and "Thippam"
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 16:48 BST (UK)  »
 :) Thank you all.  That nit of a problem had been nagging me for several years.  I am amazed at how quickly good information came my way on RootsChat.com.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Handwritting on bap record
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 06:33 BST (UK)  »
Oh this is oh such good to hear.

Thank you.  I will work with this information tomorrow.  I am as eager to work on these siblings you have found!


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United States of America / Sarah Georgina & Cyril George Murphy b.1908
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 06:02 BST (UK)  »
I have purposely posted this on both the Ontario and USA brd, because records may reside in both countries.

George H Murphy (b.1870) m. 1902 Maud Ellen Clark (b.1877) in Lambeth London England.  My mother tells a story that her Grandfather, George H. had a fight with his Father, James Murphy. James disinherited his eldest son and George H left England in 1906 for Toronto, Ontario, Canada, then later to Detroit Michigan, USA.

This query concerns an heretofore unknown child and may relate to the bitterness my Mother recalls of her Grandmother, who lived in the household of her youngest daughter Winifred, my beloved Nana/grandmother.

It has been the family's understanding that the children of George H & Maude E were George C (b.1908 in Canada) (his middlename/refused to recognize his given name "it was awful"), Winifred Sarah (b.1910 in USA) Arthur (1912 in USA), Raymond (b.1914 in USA).

The documentation of immigration from Canada to USA I found Maud travelling with an 8month old Sarah Georgina (b.1908). George H, the husband & father, had come earlier and I found no record for George C.   These babies would have been twins. I have ruled out typographical errors because the description of the baby is distinct.  I wonder if circumstances would cause the George to be listed elsewhere. 

It appears that one of Maud's sisters, Lillian, who married a GREEN was already in Detroit, Michigan USA.  Were one of the babies her sister's? Strangly, I happen to find record of Sarah Georgina at a time when one of my sister's gave birth to twins later in life.  Our family thought this to be a fluke, but since finding Sarah Georgina and C George--we are thinking otherwise.

Sadly, I have found no other records for Sarah Georgina. (Manifest of Passengers to port=Detroit, pg=18), (individual slips that identify the passenger/microfiche #1478_69)

George b.1908 in Canada, on the other hand, does not appear until the USA census of 1910. (ward=Detroit 8, county = Wayne, State= Michigan, pg= sheet 6A)

What is the best way to go about resolving this history?

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Canada / Sarah Georgina & Cyril George Murphy b.1908
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 06:00 BST (UK)  »
I have purposely posted this on both the Ontario and USA brd, because records may reside in both countries.

George H Murphy (b.1870) m. 1902 Maud Ellen Clark (b.1877) in Lambeth London England.  My mother tells a story that her Grandfather, George H. had a fight with his Father, James Murphy. James disinherited his eldest son and George H left England in 1906 for Toronto, Ontario, Canada, then later to Detroit Michigan, USA.

This query concerns an heretofore unknown child and may relate to the bitterness my Mother recallsl of her Grandmother, who lived in the household of her youngest daughter Winifred, my beloved Nana/grandmother.

It has been the family's understanding that the children of George H & Maude E were George C (b.1908 in Canada) (his middlename/refused to recognize his given name "it was awful"), Winifred Sarah (b.1910 in USA) Arthur (1912 in USA), Raymond (b.1914 in USA).

The documentation of immigration from Canada to USA I found Maud travelling with an 8month old Sarah Georgina (b.1908). George H, husband & father, had come earlier and I found no record for George C.   These babies would have been twins. I have ruled out typographical errors because the description of the baby is distinct.  I wonder if circumstances would cause the George to be listed elsewhere. 

It appears that one of Maud's sisters, Lillian, who married a GREEN was already in Detroit, Michigan USA.  Were one of the babies her sister's? Strangly, I happen to find record of Sarah Georgina at a time when one of my sister's gave birth to twins later in life.  Our family thought this to be a fluke, but since finding Sarah Georgina and C George--we are thinking otherwise.

Sadly, I have found no other records for Sarah Georgina. (Manifest of Passengers to port=Detroit, pg=18), (individual slips that identify the passenger/microfiche #1478_69)

George b.1908 in Canada, on the other hand, does not appear until the USA census of 1910. (ward=Detroit 8, county = Wayne, State= Michigan, pg= sheet 6A)

What is the best way to go about resolving this history?


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