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Northumberland / Re: Alexander Weightman/Wightman
« on: Monday 01 April 24 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi , my 4th great grandmother is Isabella Wightman , born 1785 Doddington Northumberland ,her father is John Wightman ,I think your Alexander and Isabella are siblings . I can't find the marriage of my 4th great grandparents ,Thomas Green and Isabella Wightman .

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Armed Forces / Re: south wales Borderers
« on: Wednesday 19 July 23 19:20 BST (UK)  »
thank you Andy for the reply , its George Watkins I am intrested in ,I have his service record , and some census records . in 1871 he was aged 7 ,living in brecon , cant find him in 1881 , in 1891 he was living in ferndale in the Rhondda . gave himself up to the police ,some time after 1891 .

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Armed Forces / Re: south wales Borderers
« on: Wednesday 19 July 23 18:52 BST (UK)  »
A simple question, but regretably a slightly complicated answer.

1881 was a momentous year for the British Army as it was the start of the Childers Reforms. The old numbered Regular regiments* were given territorial links and names, and the previously separate Militia battalions and the Rifle volunteers were all swept up in the amalgamation. The result was the SWB had two 3rd Battalions.

The first of these was the Militia battalion (mentioned by Shaun) formed from the old Royal Radnor and Brecknock Rifles. They continued to have that association with Radnor and Brecknock. The militia had very specific terms of service which meant they could only be called out ('embodied') by a proclamation issued by the Lord Lieutenant of the county and even then they could only remain embodied for a limited time. Their role was for local defence and once they had completed their initial training they only had to parade once a year and did very little continuation training. Men for the militia were selected from list drawn up by their local communities and they had to fulfill their 3 year commitment unless they were either grossly unfit for military service or they could pay a substitute to take their place.

The other 3rd Battalion was the Volunteer battalion formed from the 2nd Monmouthshire Rifle Volunteer Corps. These men were true volunteers and were consequently more efficient soldiers and were paid more than the militia. They were based in Pontypool and Brecon. A large number of the men of A, B and C Companies came from the workforce of the steelworks and tinplate works just outside Pontypool. By 1886 they were renumbered as the 2nd Volunteer Battalion SWB  (not to be confused with the Regular 2nd Battalion SWB.) 28 Officers and 709 NCOs and men of the battalion volunteered to go the South Africa in January 1900 to fight in the Second Boer War. Three of the officers and 34 NCOs and men died in South Africa, either killed by the Boers, or succumbed to disease.

So depending on where the person you are interested in was living, you can probably work out which battalion he served with. The muster rolls for the 3rd Volunteer battalion have survived, but I'm not sure if the militia rolls have also survived.

If you search the (free) newspaper archive at the National Library of Wales (as suggested by hanes teulu), you will find many a reports about the activities of the 3rd Volunteer Battalion, their annual camps, social events and shooting competitions etc.

* the regular South Wales Borders were previously the 24th Regiment of Foot. A brief regimental history here: https://web.archive.org/web/20060116064146/http://www.24thfoot.org/history.htm

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Armed Forces / south wales Borderers
« on: Monday 17 July 23 20:00 BST (UK)  »
can some one tell me where the 3rd Battalion South wales borderers ,were stationd between 1881 to 1893 . thank you

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Armed Forces / Re: Eighty Sixth Regiment of foot
« on: Monday 31 August 20 21:57 BST (UK)  »
hi thank you for the help , I only have basic information from ancestry , you have to pay extra for more

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Armed Forces / Eighty Sixth Regiment of foot
« on: Monday 31 August 20 20:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi , while researching my family from Northumberland England , I came across a ancestor ,Thomas Green, in the 1861 census  ,born Whittingham ,Northumberland about 1815 . a Chelsea pensioner. I have found his record . Corporal Thomas Green . enlistment age 22, Discharge age 75 , born about 1815 ,birth place Whittingham Northumberland . Enlistment year 1837 . discharge year 1890-1899 . Regiment Eighty Sixth Reg of foot . Regimental Number . 2380 2nd foot 1988.  ok when I looked     up the Eighty sixth they are a Irish regiment , how could someone from the north of England end up in a Irish regiment . or am I missing something . 

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Armed Forces Resources / uniform
« on: Sunday 26 April 20 17:47 BST (UK)  »
can some one identified this uniform 

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Waterford / Re: William Morris
« on: Monday 21 October 19 16:10 BST (UK)  »
yes , that is correct , he transferred to the 12th regiment of foot , as Lieutenant 11 sep 1795 . I think there was a barracks at Drogheda Ireland ? . he then joined the Royal Newfound Regiment of Fencible infantry as Captain 6 Aug 1803   

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Waterford / William Morris
« on: Saturday 19 October 19 19:21 BST (UK)  »
hi , I am looking for the baptism of my 5th great grandfather William Morris , born 14th June 1781  ,Waterford Ireland , and any information on the 124th Waterford Regiment of foot . on 11 August 1794 , at the age of 13 , William Morris ,enlisted in the Regiment , as Ensign . 

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