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Wiltshire / Re: MEDLAM/ALFORD/COLLIS/CHANDLER
« on: Sunday 16 December 07 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I have a Martha Alford, b1850 in Gillingham, Dorset, who married William Alexander at Orcheston St Mary in 1876.

Her parents were James Alford and Martha Gregory (formerly Shepherd).

Are these connected to any of your trees?

If so, I would appreciate any help on the ancestry of James.

Thankyou,
John A.

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth look up - Maria Jane ALEXANDER
« on: Sunday 11 November 07 23:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Sandra,
I've just spent an hour or more answering your reply, but when I 'posted' it I came to a message that said Rootschat was closed for an hour or so for maintenance and my message disappeared!
So here goes again,

We share William (1771) and Kezia as common ancestors.
By my reckoning they are my 4xgGrandparents and your 3xgGrandparents which must make us 4th Cousins, once removed.

I agree with your list of children of William and Keziah with one exception. I have my 3xgGrandmother as Maria Jane, ch 3.04.1809. I do not have separate Maria and Jane.

I know that there are a lot of Maria Jane's which adds to the confusion, but more of that later.

I have Mary Pricter's marriage to William as 6 Nov. 1798 and her death as 14 Sep 1802.
I have William then marrying Kezia(h) 16 Nov 1807.
You have already listed their children, so I will show the descendants of Maria Jane(1809)
Maria Jane had an illegitimate son William born 1834 died 1881. He married (25.6.1857) Mary Ann West b 1837.

They had the following children:
William b 13.12.1857 died 6.07.1924
Thomas b 6.03.1859
Leah b 15.03.1861 died 31.03.1925
James b c1863 died c 1896
Rose b c 1866 died 17.02.1952

Leah and James had a 'double wedding' on 12.10.1887, when James married Isabella Drewitt or Drewitz b c1864 and Leah married James Cable b c1866

William(1857) married(30.12.1876) Martha Alford b 25.10.1850.
They had the following children:
Sydney James b 28.05.1877
William b 26.02.1880
Albert Edwin b 11.01.1882
Francis Thomas b 20.10.1883
Charles Victor b 17.06.1886
Austin Augustus b 1.03.1888
Clara Louise b 21.09.1889
Priscilla Mabel b 13.04.1891
Samuel John b 6.03.1893

There may have been one or more others who died young.
Of these siblings;
Albert Edwin married (1901) Sarah Cassell and had a son in 1902.  Albert Edwin died c 1907.
Austin Augustus married (1916) xxx Christensen and had a daughter b c1920.
Samuel John married (c1912) Nellie M. Bryant and had two daughters, b c 1912 and 1920.
My grandfather, Charles Victor married (29.06.1906) Lily Ellis.
He died in an accident on ss Oceanic in mid Atlantic on 18.12.1912 and was buried at sea the next day. Lily remarried in 1924 and died 26.06.1974
Charles and Lily had the following children:
Doris Lily b 22.11.1906
Laura Mabel b 4.06.1908
Charles Frederick b 9.06.1910

Charles Frederick married (26.12.1936) Elizabeth Esther Ashby b 18.10.1915.
Charles Frederick died 25.02.1973 and Elizabeth died 14.11.2004.  They had 4 sons, all living, all married and all with living children.

As well as the BMD certs for most of the above, it has been possible to track the families through the various censuses.

I mentioned earlier about Maria Jane and her siblings. I have the names of spouses for many of them, not least your ggGrandfather Charles who married a Maria Jane Browne and later had a daughter called Maria Jane!

I would appreciate it if you could give the descendancy from Charles down to you if possible. If you don't want to put in online, please send me a pm.
Thanks, and hope this is of some help,
John

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth look up - Maria Jane ALEXANDER
« on: Sunday 11 November 07 22:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Sandra,
I've just spent an hour or more answering your reply, but when I 'posted' it I came to a message that said Rootschat was closed for an hour or so for maintainance and my message disappeared!
So here goes again,

We share William (1771) and Kezia as common ancestors.
By my reckoning they are my 4xgGrandparents and your 3xgGranparents which must make us 4th Cousins, once removed.

I agree with your list of children of William and Keziah with one exception. I have my 3xgGrandmother as Maria Jane, Ch 3.04.1809. I do not have separate Maria and Jane.

I know that there are a lot of Maria Janes which adds to the confusion, but more of that later.

I have Mary Pricter's marriage to William as 6 Nov. 1798 and her death as 14 Sep 1802.
I have William then marrying Kezia(h) 16 Nov 1807.
You have already listed their children, so I will show the descendents of Maria Jane(1809)
Maria Jane had an illegitimate son William born 1834 died 1881. He married (25.6.1857) Mary Ann West b 1837.

They had the following children:
William b 13.12.1857 died 6.07.1924
Thomas b 6.03.1859
Leah b 15.03.1861 died 31.03.1925
James b c1863 died c 1896
Rose b c 1866 died 17.02.1952

Leah and James had a 'double wedding' on 12.10.1887, when James married Isabella Drewitt or Drewitz b c1864 and Leah married James Cable b c1866

William(1857) married(30.12.1876) Martha Alford b 25.10.1850.
They had the following children:
Sydney James b 28.05.1877
William b 26.02.1880

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth look up - Maria Jane Alexander
« on: Thursday 03 May 07 13:39 BST (UK)  »
Brian,

Thank you,

John

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth look up - Maria Jane Alexander
« on: Wednesday 02 May 07 23:04 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again, Brian.

As I had the basic info on William with Mary Prictor, I have looked back at the Swanborough tree 'just in case' that was the right line.

I suspected that Kezia may be a second marriage but still need to find out when Mary died.

In relation to Maria Jane's illegitimate son William in 1834, would the Wiltshire 'Bastardy records' give any indication of who Maria 'liaised' with to produce him?
 If so, does anyone know who has access to them?

Thanks again,
jonalex

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth look up - Maria Jane Alexander
« on: Wednesday 02 May 07 20:01 BST (UK)  »
Many, many thanks, Borneo.

This is definitely the right family, but the marriage  between William and Kezia remains a mystery.

 One other thing, what does "son of (occ servant)" mean? Also the "(Note: base born)"?

I had William, "son of Maria +unknown", born on 27th April 1834 at Westbury, Wilts. (IGI), so the baptism of Jan 1835 looks to be the right one.

Thanks, jonalex

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: Birth and Marriage look ups- Ellis c1840
« on: Friday 27 April 07 13:08 BST (UK)  »
Yes, Patrish, it's certainly an odd one.

I can't understand why I can't find anything about Ellen either.

At the moment I'm going off on a tangent, looking at the family (parents and siblings) of Gertrude Warner, the visiting governess I mentioned, just in case she happens to be Lily's mother's sister !  I think I'm confusing myself now ???

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Birth look up - Maria Jane ALEXANDER
« on: Friday 27 April 07 13:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello there,

Is anyone able to look up a birth of Maria Jane Alexander who was apparently born on 03.04.1809 in Imber in Wilts. I need to confirm just who her parents were.

I have two differing opinions offered to me that she was the daughter of William Alexander and Mary Prictor, or the daughter of (the same) William Alexander and a Keziah Bartlett.

William Alexander was born c1769.

Can anyone help please?

jonalex

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: Birth and Marriage look ups- Ellis c1840
« on: Friday 27 April 07 12:39 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks - another option to look at.

I'll see if I can find that James and Mary on later census returns.
jonalex

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