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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Ford & Yew Tree Cemetery Records
« on: Tuesday 14 October 14 09:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Marienne, not what I was hoping for  :( but thank you so much for checking for me. Kind regards, Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Ford & Yew Tree Cemetery Records
« on: Monday 13 October 14 20:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Marienne
I believe that my 2xg.grandfather, John Cassidy, was buried in Ford cemetery on 4 August 1907. I have a ref 1017 or I017 which I think must be the plot number.  Please could you check this for me and if possible tell me who else is buried with him? Kind regards, Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Directory - About 1847 - Bryan CASSIDY
« on: Tuesday 19 February 13 21:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Blue, that looks like a good website.  Kind regards, Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Directory - About 1847 - Bryan CASSIDY
« on: Saturday 16 February 13 21:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Blue
I love your website!
Thanks for the info on Bryan Cassidys and the Cassidy clan and for your help generally.
Kind regards
Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Directory - About 1847 - Bryan CASSIDY
« on: Saturday 16 February 13 15:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Blue
Do you know where in Ireland your family were from or were they like mine and just say Ireland on the census?!
Given that I have a missing baptism for John in 1848 (that might suggest that the census records are correct and he was indeed born in Ireland) and a marriage of his parents Lawrence and Mary in 1847 in Liverpool (which is odd and, as you said, the records of St Mary's on Ancestry don't show it), I guess I still need to somehow find out where in Ireland they were from so that I can try and establish if the Bryan who was buried in 1829 was Lawrence's father or not.  The saga continues..........
I have also spotted a Brian Cassidy buried in Liverpool St Mary's in 1848 aged 20 - a brother of Lawrence's perhaps?
Kind regards
Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Directory - About 1847 - Bryan CASSIDY
« on: Friday 15 February 13 18:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Blue
The baptism you've found for Ann is the right one I'm sure as her younger brothers were also baptised at St Anthony's.  Lawrence's occupation was a labourer for the most part.
I had considered that they might have moved back and forth but given that they were probably poor and I can't imagine them wanting to head back to Ireland unless absolutely necessary (I believe that some were made by the poor law unions to go back), particularly at the height of the famine.

Anyway, this is the information I have on Lawrence Cassidy and his family:

Married 23 Sep 1847 in St Mary’s Catholic Church, Liverpool
Lawrence Cassidy aged 22, Bachelor, Labourer
Address: Roberts Building, Eldon Street, Liverpool
Father: Bryan Cassidy, Cow Keeper
Mary King aged 20, Spinster
Address: Drury(?) Lane, Liverpool
Father: John King, Servant
Witnesses: Michael Daley and Bridget Kelly

Children of Lawrence & Mary (there may have been others?):

John Cassidy b. Abt. 1848 Ireland (according to Census info)

Ann Cassidy b. 20 Jan 1850, 9 Court, Saltney Street, Liverpool

Thomas Cassidy b. 19 Jul 1854, 6 Green Street, Liverpool
Bap. 30 Jul 1854 St Anthony’s RC church Liverpool
Godparents: Thomas Winstanley and Mary Handwick

Andrew Cassidy b. 30 Jan 1857 5Green Street, Liverpool
Bap. 8 Feb 1857 St Anthony’s RC church Liverpool
Godparents: Andrew Cassidy and Mary Ann Kirwan

Occupation:
Labourer (1847 marriage cert.)
Labourer (1850 Ann’s birth certificate)
Ostler (1851 census)
Car Driver (1854 Thomas’s birth certificate)
Labourer (1857 Andrew’s birth certificate)
Labourer (1857 death certificate)
Labourer [Deceased] (1868 John's marriage certificate)
Labourer (1873 Thomas’s marriage certificate)

Age/Place of birth:
1847: 22 Therefore b. abt. 1825 (marriage cert.)
1851: 27 / Ireland - Therefore b. abt. 1824 (census)
1857: 35 Therefore b. abt. 1822 (death cert.)
1857: 33 Therefore b. abt. 1824 (burial reg.)

Died 21 Feb 1857 in North Hospital, Liverpool (aged 35)
Buried 26 Feb 1857 in St Anthony’s Catholic Church, Liverpool (aged 33)
Cause of death: Accidentally killed
Daily Post: Wednesday 25 Feb 1857
The following inquests were held before the borough coroner yesterday :-On the body of Lawrence Cassidy, a labourer. About four weeks ago the deceased was at work on board the steamer Belbeck, when a heavy piece of iron accidentally fell on him, and he received such injuries as caused his death in the Northern Hospital on Monday. Verdict accordingly.
Liverpool Mercury: Wed 25 Feb 1857
An inquest was held yesterday upon Lawrence Cassidy, 35 years of age, a labourer, who resided at No.5 Green street, Vauxhall road. On Monday the 26th of last month, the deceased was at work on board the steamer Balbec, in the Huskisson dock, when a bundle of sheet iron, about three quarters of a hundred weight, slipped out of the slings and fell upon him, from the effects of which he died in the Northern hospital on Saturday last night. Verdict: accidental death.

Inquest Register: No. 108: 24th Feb 1857, Lawrence Cassidy, N.Hospital, died on 21 Feb, age 35, Acc.killed.

Mary remarried 4 Jan 1859 at St Mary's, Edmund Street, Liverpool
2nd husband: John Mc Gowan

Thanks for all your help with this Blue.
Kind regards
Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Directory - About 1847 - Bryan CASSIDY
« on: Friday 15 February 13 09:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Blue
The thing is, I had originally thought they had come across from Ireland later on.  In the 1851 census, Lawrence and Mary (both b. Ireland) have a son John (b. Ireland) aged 2 and daughter Ann (b. Liverpool) aged 1.  All later census records also give Johns place of birth as Ireland.  From this information I had assumed that Lawrence had come to Liverpool in the year between John and Ann's birth.  Which, as well as being at the height of the famine, was not an unreasonable assumption.  However, then I stumbled across Lawrence and Mary's marriage in Liverpool in 1847.  So now I am left wondering well how come John was born in Ireland around 1848 if his parents married in Liverpool in 1847?  There were a few John Cassidy's born in Liverpool around that time and so I guess I need to check them out.  If I find that in fact John was born in Liverpool and not Ireland then I would feel more confident that in fact they had come to Liverpool sooner than I had been led to believe and therefore that the Bryan buried in Liverpool in 1829 was the right one.  Sorry if that was rather long winded :-) but that should at least explain why I have reservations.  Kind regards, Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Directory - About 1847 - Bryan CASSIDY
« on: Thursday 14 February 13 22:09 GMT (UK)  »
Very interesting thread, thanks for that Blue.  And thanks for checking in your directories.  Maybe he did remain in Ireland, though perhaps not all Cow Keepers would have been listed in directories anyway.
Kind regards
Sam

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Directory - About 1847 - Bryan CASSIDY
« on: Wednesday 13 February 13 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that Blue, I'll bear that in mind.  If it was him (though from what I can gather the name Bryan was quite a popular Irish name, so possibly not my Bryan) then perhaps an earlier Directory would be more appropriate.  Kind regards, Sam

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