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South Africa / Re: Can anyone PLEASE help with a MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT question?
« on: Monday 06 July 15 01:42 BST (UK) »
Hi there Nookie,
Thank you so much for giving your time and attention to helping me solve this puzzle. The person I’m looking for is, Aletta Sophia Hester Doubell. Her maiden name was van Nieuwenhuizen. I’ve been trying to locate baptismal, death records, burial info on her for years now and seem to come up empty no matter what angle I take.
Sometime back, another roots member very kindly located a whole lot of records (PE phone book, Aletta's husband and two infant daughters’ North End Cemetery plot info, and his obit in the paper [1918 flu]) but the birth and death dates/documents remain illusive.
At the time of her death, Aletta was a resident of Port Elizabeth but according to family died while visiting family in the Debe Nek / Middledrift area, although another family member insists it was in the Springfontein area. Over the past few years, I’ve gone through the following death records on the familysearch.org site, to no avail.
Keiskammahoek
1939 - 1950
King Williams Town
1939 - 1948
Middledrift
1939 - 1949
Port Elizabeth
(on the chance that records were forwarded)
1938, 1939, & 1943
I’ve also scoured the NAAIRS’ site.
While going through the above LDS records, I’ve noticed that there are some that have a notation saying that they were transferred from another town. So I’m wondering if this is when someone has died in a location other than the town of their residence. Was it standard practice to send a copy of the death certificate to their hometown? Was a copy retained in the town in which they passed? Being that some of these towns have so many records for each year, knowing this would be helpful to focus the search….As would knowing the magisterial district (where records were sent) for the Debe Nek/Middledrift area.
Regarding her baptism, I was able to locate a reference to her sister’s baptismal record (Venterstad) in 1885 on the familysearch.org site but not the record itself. I believe Aletta was born around 1880-81 and unfortunately the Venterstad DRC was only founded in 1882, which I assume accounts for her name not being in the index.
I have come across several other Aletta Sophia Hester van Nieuwenhuizen’s, who I presume stem from the same family, even one born around the same time, but not the correct ASH van Nieuwenhuizen/Doubell. She had one husband. So records would fall under either one of those last names. The above Venterstad baptismal reference is also definitely her sister.
Another angle I’m checking out is that apparently the people she was visiting at the time owned one of those old trading stations/posts next to the railway stations, and a pub nearby. Any thoughts on how to come up with the ownership of the Debe Nek, Middledrift, and Springfontein railway trading posts? Being that she doesn’t appear to be buried alongside her husband and infants in the North End cemetery, I’m assuming she may have been buried where she died…Although I’ve checked eggs.org’s gravestones already. Just ordered their cemetery DVD, but have yet to receive.
Anyway, that is pretty much the full overview. Any help you can provide would be very much appreciated.
Sincerely,
LAM
Thank you so much for giving your time and attention to helping me solve this puzzle. The person I’m looking for is, Aletta Sophia Hester Doubell. Her maiden name was van Nieuwenhuizen. I’ve been trying to locate baptismal, death records, burial info on her for years now and seem to come up empty no matter what angle I take.
Sometime back, another roots member very kindly located a whole lot of records (PE phone book, Aletta's husband and two infant daughters’ North End Cemetery plot info, and his obit in the paper [1918 flu]) but the birth and death dates/documents remain illusive.
At the time of her death, Aletta was a resident of Port Elizabeth but according to family died while visiting family in the Debe Nek / Middledrift area, although another family member insists it was in the Springfontein area. Over the past few years, I’ve gone through the following death records on the familysearch.org site, to no avail.
Keiskammahoek
1939 - 1950
King Williams Town
1939 - 1948
Middledrift
1939 - 1949
Port Elizabeth
(on the chance that records were forwarded)
1938, 1939, & 1943
I’ve also scoured the NAAIRS’ site.
While going through the above LDS records, I’ve noticed that there are some that have a notation saying that they were transferred from another town. So I’m wondering if this is when someone has died in a location other than the town of their residence. Was it standard practice to send a copy of the death certificate to their hometown? Was a copy retained in the town in which they passed? Being that some of these towns have so many records for each year, knowing this would be helpful to focus the search….As would knowing the magisterial district (where records were sent) for the Debe Nek/Middledrift area.
Regarding her baptism, I was able to locate a reference to her sister’s baptismal record (Venterstad) in 1885 on the familysearch.org site but not the record itself. I believe Aletta was born around 1880-81 and unfortunately the Venterstad DRC was only founded in 1882, which I assume accounts for her name not being in the index.
I have come across several other Aletta Sophia Hester van Nieuwenhuizen’s, who I presume stem from the same family, even one born around the same time, but not the correct ASH van Nieuwenhuizen/Doubell. She had one husband. So records would fall under either one of those last names. The above Venterstad baptismal reference is also definitely her sister.
Another angle I’m checking out is that apparently the people she was visiting at the time owned one of those old trading stations/posts next to the railway stations, and a pub nearby. Any thoughts on how to come up with the ownership of the Debe Nek, Middledrift, and Springfontein railway trading posts? Being that she doesn’t appear to be buried alongside her husband and infants in the North End cemetery, I’m assuming she may have been buried where she died…Although I’ve checked eggs.org’s gravestones already. Just ordered their cemetery DVD, but have yet to receive.
Anyway, that is pretty much the full overview. Any help you can provide would be very much appreciated.
Sincerely,
LAM