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Renfrewshire / Re: Cuthill / Cathell / Cuthell family : Paisley
« on: Monday 14 January 19 01:00 GMT (UK)  »
Greetings LizL and good to hear from you.
I recently found that Jane Shaw Byers married David Halbert Watson in Paisley in 1961.
I also found a son of the same name born 1976 in Paisley. I reckon there will be children between 1961 & 76 but there are tons of Watson births during this period so I have not yet identified them.
Like you, I am in the area based in Uplawmoor. I am still seeking a living Cuthill relative but this too has eluded me.
Hope your festive season went well.
Regards,
Colin

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Wigtownshire / Re: William Diamond c1818 & Sarah Mahood c1816 ( or McWhood variant ): Stoneykirk
« on: Wednesday 27 April 16 06:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Monica,
What a colourful lady Sarah is turning out to be. Life could not have been easy for her. I do hope she is my distant Grandmother! I must now check the farms around Stoneykirk for the respective fathers. Similar examples can be found on my Father's side of the family, also from around the Stoneykirk area.
Likewise, with W D Hood - a nice bit of detective work!
Thank you for your time and effort, I do appreciate the stimulus you have given me to adopt a more holistic approach to database use. I have tended to use only one or two sites, however I am learning.
All the best,
Colin

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Wigtownshire / Re: William Diamond c1818 & Sarah Mahood c1816 ( or McWhood variant ): Stoneykirk
« on: Tuesday 26 April 16 00:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Monica,
Many thanks for your input.
I did not see the Sally Ann Mahood reference until you pointed it out. She married Edward Johnston on 26/6/1860 @ Stoneykirk, aged 46.
Regarding her son, John Diamond, I have him in the 1841 census living with John, Elisabeth and Sarah Mahood in Stoneykirk.
Strangely, I cannot find any reference to them in the 1851 census?? Will keep searching.
On John D's & Mary Lavery's wedding cert. ( 29/4/1862 ) both father and son are stated as ploughmen. Mother - Sarah Mahood.
On John D's & Agnes Gray's wedding cert. ( 2/3/1885 )  John D is a mason.
Parents - William D. - farm labourer and Sarah 'Hood' - Housekeeper.
Also of interest or coincidence is that the male witness is a William D Hood.
The plot thickens.
John D's death cert. 21/3/1921 - profession - Mason. Lavery & Gray wives stated. Age- 77? [ 82 actual] Informant - William Campbell; son-in-law - was 2nd husband of Annie Bella Diamond.
Parents - John Diamond, mason, deceased, & Elizabeth Diamond nee Caldwell, deceased?????
Was John farmed out to one of his Father's brothers thus the assumption they were his real parents?
Did William Campbell just make it up to fill the box?

This is what keeps me going - there is an explanation, I just cannot see it yet.
Regards,
Colin

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Renfrewshire / Re: Cuthill / Cathell / Cuthell family : Paisley
« on: Sunday 24 April 16 19:27 BST (UK)  »
Dear EV,
Many thanks for the information - much appreciated.
The realisation that their surname 'evolved' only struck me a few months ago. I believed they were from Kirkcaldy and put all my efforts into chasing ghosts over there - trust that town to have a clan of Cuthills!
Thanks again for your time and input.
Regards,
Colin

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Wigtownshire / William Diamond c1818 & Sarah Mahood c1816 ( or McWhood variant ): Stoneykirk
« on: Sunday 24 April 16 09:04 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to identify which William Diamond the above is as he would be my GGGG Grandfather on my Mother's side.

Background -

From birth cert - parents named.

William Diamond (c1818) agri. labourer & Sarah Mahood (c1816) domestic [have seen recorded as McWhood] produced a 'natural son' at Stoneykirk 20/9/1839 - John Diamond b1839-d1921 Stranraer.

From birth & marriage certs -  above parents named.

John Diamond married Mary Lavery (1840-84) at Stoneykirk 5/6/1862 - 1st wife : 5 sons + 5 daughters.
2nd wife Agnes Craig Gray (1857-?) married 2/3/1885 at Stranraer : 1 son = 1 daughter.

Mary Diamond (1876-1956) married John Halley Walker. married at Stranraer 31/12/1895 :1 son + 3 daughters.

Mary Walker (1898-1998) married John Hill Cuthill (1893-1929), Glasgow : 1 daughter

Mary Diamond Cuthill (1926-1972) - my Mother.

Given the number of William Diamond's living around the area at the time of John Diamond's birth, I cannot seem to determine which one could be the father.
I am hoping that the unusual Mahood/McWhood surname may resolve this query.
Should anybody have such a surname featured in their tree or research and can shed some light on William Diamond's origins I would appreciate hearing about it.
Many thanks,
Colin



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Renfrewshire / Cuthill / Cathell / Cuthell family : Paisley
« on: Saturday 23 April 16 08:46 BST (UK)  »
I am seeking any connections with my mother's family living in the Paisley area.
The surname evolved from Cathell to Cuthill and can be seen in their various BDM certificates.
I can see Cuthill's currently residing in Paisley and my goal is to uncover potential links with them.

John Cathell (1826-56) + Eliz Wilson Lang (1831-82) - buried Woodside Cem.          Great GGPs
Children -
Elizabeth (1856 - died in infancy)
James     (1861-62)
Janet McPherson   (1863-86)
Lilias (Lily) Elizabeth (1866-1915) married Flexi Cumming (Govan)
Sarah Ann (1871-73)
Jane Lang  (1850-58)
John Cathell (1859-1925)+Mary Cunningham (1862-1930)- Buried Hawkhead Cem       GreatGPs
Children -
Agnes Forbes (1885-1956) married Thomas Hunter (Paisley) - newspaper reporter.
Archibald Forbes (1887 - died infancy)
Elizabeth Wilson  (1889-1901)   buried Hawkhead Cem with parents.
Mary (1891-?) married John Young ( Paisley)
James (1895-?)
Alexander (1901-?) married Daisy Drysdale ( Kirkcaldy - last known location. )
John Hill Cuthill (1893-1929) married Mary Walker ( Glasgow )                                 Grandparents
Child -
Mary Diamond Cuthill (1926-72) Buried: Woodside Cem. married Ian Cooper ( Stranraer )

John Cathell (1826-78) was a boatman, living in Cart Lane near the old harbour. Best described as a 'colourful' character ( Several mentions in the court section of the Paisley Gazette. ).

Some of the earlier deaths are buried in the Abbey Burying Ground - this was part of Paisley Abbey or just within the Abbey Parish boundaries?

If anyone can see a connection to their tree or has any additional information, please let me know.
Thanks in advance,
Colin

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Wigtownshire / Re: My names in Stranraer area
« on: Friday 20 February 15 09:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jenny,
We have only recently relocated back to the UK from Sydney plus I tracked down a living member of the Girvin family who's GGM was a Blain from Stranraer thus the re-ignition of the thread. All good stuff as far as I am concerned. I originally got the Blain info through GenesReunited many years ago but thought that the Blain/Girvin branch had died out however found a member of the American family living in Brisbane. Have the Stranraer Blains back to 1730 - welcome to it. Regards, Colin

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Wigtownshire / Re: Paterson Brothers born Stoneykirk
« on: Thursday 19 February 15 17:39 GMT (UK)  »
Paterson Family - Bargrennan, Stoneykirk
This is my paternal grandmother's background which I wish to explore.
GGF John Paterson - married twice Margaret McClure, 1st wife, then Grace Cowan M 22/11/1863 Knowe Village.   Children  - Grace, George, John Stroyan, Henry, Annie, Mary and my GGF William Paterson B 9/3/1873
William married Janet Findlay 20/4/1900 - Knowe Village, Bargrennan, had a daughter - my
GM - Margaret Duncan Paterson B 5/2/1901 married William Cooper, Lochans, Stranraer
Son - Ian William Paterson Cooper - my father.
I can see many Patersons in the area but find it hard to figure out who are relatives? I have never met any of this side of my family thus my curiosity.
Should anybody have a better insight into the Patersons mentioned above, please let me know, it would be appreciated. Regards, Colin Cooper

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Wigtownshire / Re: James & Agnes Diamond
« on: Thursday 19 February 15 17:10 GMT (UK)  »
RE : DIAMONDS
In my family tree the Diamonds come through my mother's family. The majority of my family originated in Wigtownshire. I have researched the line but must admit that I cannot make any sense of it, however here goes. Strangely, I have William Diamond's wife named Elisabeth Eadies, pair married around 1820, 9 children, youngest Ann B 6/10/1817. From then on I am confused. My line appears to me to look like -
GF5 John Diamond + wife Elizabeth Caldwell
GF4 William Diamond + Sarah Wood - natural son John Diamond?
GF3 John Diamond + wife, Mary Lavery
GM2 Mary Diamond + husband, John Walker
GM Mary Walker + husband John Cuthill
M   Mary Diamond Cuthill + Ian Cooper from the Lochans near Stranraer.
 
I have John & William as masons.
Can anyone see the path through this maze? Have I misread the timeline, are John & William actually brothers? Have I missed out a generation.
Any information regarding the above would be welcome. Regards, Colin.

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