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Lincolnshire / Re: Billyard/Billiard/Billiald: Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire connected?
« on: Wednesday 15 February 17 20:31 GMT (UK)  »
Sheila,
Lynn here.....

I just reviewed this conversation, along with another thread, plus our personal messages,  so would like to resume our conversation!  I have researched and found the earliest Billiald/Billiard etc to be 1596, same as you mention.

You might find it interesting a research paper includes some Billiald/Billiard history of the surname :  "The Methods of Studying the Origins and History of Family Names" that suggests the name goes further back to 1300's in East Markham.   

(I have included the link to this paper here but I am not sure you will be able to get to the article.  If not, please let me know so that I can email you the pdf document)  It is titled Methods for studying the Origins and History of Family Names in Britain:
Philology meets Statistics in a Multicultural Context
from L. Larsson and S. Nyström (eds)

 https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=www2.uwe.ac.uk/.../Methods-for-studying+the+origins+and+history+of+family&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
..............

One another line of thinking....

I have many names, mostly unattached to a direct line, but they all have the Markham area in common.  I have put the names into 3 charts, including Christenings, Marriages, and  Notations of Male Billiald names (from the mss.cat.nottingham.ac.uk

I have a John married to Ruth Otter.  John was brother to my gg grandfater William.  John and William's father was Samuel ( my ggg grandfater) so we are what degree of cousins? 

Would you like to share information, either here on rootschat or private messaging or email?

Hope to hear from you here or through messages soon!

Lynn

PS:
I know Andrew has a vast database of Billyard etc and our Billiard line is included in it as "unattached" to any direct lines.  I have hoped to figure out how his information can help me get further back than Richard Billiald b. 1725.


*waves to Lynn and Andrew*

Marking my place as a great grand-daughter of Samuel Billyard (1853-1933), son of John Billyard and Ruth (née Otter) of Walesby.

I am intrigued that the family's roots go back in the Markham area to the 1590s, as I had been told when I first started my research that they were immigrants from Flanders, following the Edict of Nantes in 1598, so that seems to fit together.

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Antsey and Larkspur and others interested...

I found a very informative study, which includes narrative of the Billiald/etc surname titled
Methods for studying the Origins and History of Family Names in Britain:
Philology meets Statistics in a Multicultural Context

from L. Larsson and S. Nyström (eds.), Facts and Findings on Personal Names: Some European Examples. Proceedings of an International Symposium in Uppsala,
October 20–21, 2011. Uppsala: Acta Acadamiæ Regiæ Scientiarum Upsaliensis (Kungl. Vetenskapssamhällets Handlingar), 37–58.  found in pdf format at
 https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=www2.uwe.ac.uk/.../Methods-for-studying+the+origins+and+history+of+family&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I noticed that there is also a followup study done in 2014.

This is where I feel secure in knowledge that the Billiald/etc family name has been recorded in one form or another in the East Markham region for over 600 years.  I had also followed the Flanders train of thought but made little headway.  The name has always appeared to me to be of French origin.

Hope you can access the study.  Billiald name is on pages 17-18

Lynn

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Larkspur,
Frampton Parish is one location I know about.

Thanks for helping!

Lynn

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http://www.billyard.ca/    Here's one Lynn

Ha!!  That is the website of my "partner-in-searching" and who inspired my starting this inquiry!  His line is Lincolnshire Billyard and mine is East/West Markham, Nottinghamshire Billiald/Billiard/Bilyard.  He is searching for the evidence that the two are connected.  I hope he has joined in reading this thread!

Is it possible for you to invite me to see your tree on ancestry.com?

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Del,
you asked:  "there are several Billyard websites/trees.....have you seen them ?" No I have not.  If you can access the web addresses I would appreciate it!

The earliest Richard you have described is the earliest Richard I have in my notes.  It is finding his parents that would help me on the brickwall.

I do have basic information on the generation of my GGgrandfather William Bilyard b. 1818 to Samuel and Mary (Booth), including some of his siblings' families.  I wonder if your Elizabeth might be one of his sibling's daughters.  Will go find my notes as soon to see if she is included. 

Again, thank you so much for your input! 

Lynn


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Del,
Of course I would like to share information!!  I looked at Bob Copeland's information and was pleased to see my 2X and 3X great grandfathers.  And it is only recently that I discovered the multiple spellings and the tracking of the surname into the late 1500's.  What I have yet to do is find a direct line to that era.  I have collected multiple male names, christenings, deaths, and marriages but lose the line at Richard Billiald b. 1754.

Have you seen the
"Methods for studying the Origins and History of Family Names in Britain:
Philology meets Statistics in a Multicultural Context"
from L. Larsson and S. Nyström (eds.), Facts and Findings on Personal Names: Some European Examples. Proceedings of an International Symposium in Uppsala,
October 20–21, 2011. ?
 
I found it to be fascinating as it highlighted several historic surnames, including Billiard/Billyard. It convinced me that my true Bilyard roots go back to the Markham area as early as medieval times.

Thank you so much for your replies and information.  I hope we can continue to share information.

Regards.
Lynn

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Del,  I have not seen Bob Copeland's website.  Can you share the link please?  I live in Colorado so all of my research is through the internet and wonderful volunteers such as yourself!  Thank you so much for the lead!!

Lynn

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I am interested if anyone has evidence of a connection between Billyard/Billiald/etc family histories in the counties of Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire. 

I descend from Billiald families as early as late 1590's in East Markham region and know of an individual who has records of his history in Lincolnshire.  We would like to know if there is evidence the two groups are related.

Thank you for any leads or insight!

L Bilyard

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I am interested if anyone has evidence of a connection between Billyard/Billiald/etc family histories in the counties of Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire. 

I descend from Billiald families as early as late 1590's in East Markham region and know of an individual who has records of his history in Lincolnshire.  We would like to know if there is evidence the two groups are related.

Thank you for any leads or insight!

L Bilyard

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