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Midlothian / Re: Robert Allan Shoe Shop Edinburgh
« on: Friday 22 May 20 18:14 BST (UK)  »
Is anyone still reading this thread? I am related to the James Allan and Son Bootmakers mentioned further up the thread, and while I don't know of any related businesses going under a different name, I'd be interested to explore further!

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Lancashire / Re: Worsley-Taylor -> Worsley of the Laund -> Worsley of Rising Bridge -> ?
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 19:37 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ikethearmyguy on Friday 17 October 14 14:38 BST (UK)
     I have an Elizabeth Worsley marrying William Taler (Taylor) in Altham in 1740 and wondering if she could be Nicolas' sister? Any idea how to make that connection?

Do you know any more about this William Taler?

John Taylor of Friar Hall and Broad Oak (born about 1741) had (as far as I know) five children: John (c.1765), James (c.1770), Jennet, Alice and Betsy. James apparently bought Moreton but died without issue and Moreton passed to John (1765)'s son John (1802). That John also died without issue.

Jennet had had two children, Elizabeth and Margaret, and the Taylor estate passed to Elizabeth, who had married a Rev. Richard Edwards and became Elizabeth Edwards-Taylor. She died without issue and her unmarried sister became Margaret Pilling-Taylor. Margaret then left the Taylor name / estate to Henry Wilson Worsley, but I don't know why. If the same Taylor family married the same Worsley family in 1740, perhaps this would go some way towards joining the dots?

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Lancashire / Re: Worsley-Taylor -> Worsley of the Laund -> Worsley of Rising Bridge -> ?
« on: Friday 03 January 14 22:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all so much for your responses!

@Barbara.H, I do have another James Worsley and a Henry Worsley, both of The Laund, in between H W Worsley(-Taylor)'s father James, and Nicholas Worsley of Rising Bridge. But I will investigate these carefully, as I now rather suspect the notes I was given (see below).

@Radcliff, you're quite right that it makes no sense for Nicholas Worsley's father James to have been born in 1688 given that Nicholas himself was born in 1700. And now that I look at my tree again, I don't have 1688 for James Worsley -- so I'm not sure where I got that idea from. But if Thomas Worsley and Elizabeth Ramsbottom were married in late 1684, it's still unlikely that James was born more than 16 years before Nicholas, so perhaps this whole line is suspect.

@BashLad, what a small world! From your username I would guess you are in Bashall Eaves? Moreton Hall is gone, the Worsley-Taylors have "daughtered out" and none of those daughters (now past child-bearing age) have children, so the estate is now in trust.

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Lancashire / Worsley-Taylor -> Worsley of the Laund -> Worsley of Rising Bridge -> ?
« on: Tuesday 31 December 13 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
Dear all,

I'm a newcomer here, so please don't hesitate to set me straight on any transgressions of etiquette :)

My wife has ancestors by the name of Worsley-Taylor, who according to the notes of one of her cousins descend from a James Worsley of The Laund, who in turn descends from Nicholas Worsley of Rising Bridge.

These notes are handwritten, somewhat haphazard and not well-documented. The aforementioned Nicholas was apparently born 1700 and his father James born 1688. Then we have three further generations going back -- Thomas, another Nicholas and another Thomas.

Nicholas (1700) married an Elizabeth Law, James (1688) married a Mary Lord, and his father Thomas married an Elizabeth Ramsbottom. I do not have wives for the other Nicholas and Thomas.

I'm wondering if these Worsleys might be connected to the main Worsley family descended from Sir Elias de Workesley. Does anyone recognise the associations of the name with The Laund or Rising Bridge?

Thanks,
Hamish

P.S. Happy New Year to those of you in eastern parts of the world, or those further west reading later :)

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