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Messages - Dramagal27

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Tyrone / Re: Tracey family of Drumshambo near Cookstown Co. Tyrone
« on: Sunday 15 May 16 13:37 BST (UK)  »
To: kingskerswell

This info totally fits with other info that I have discovered. Many thanks for this.

It really does pay to have fresh eyes look at your genealogy info.

Cheers!

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World War One / John Joseph Tracey of the Loyal North Lancashire Reg.
« on: Thursday 07 January 16 00:50 GMT (UK)  »
Looking for info on what happened to John Joseph Tracey (with the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment). I don't know where he is buried.

After a career in which he served in Africa and Gibraltar, he spent most of WWI in a German POW camp. When he came out, he was never the same. Years later (I don't know how many), he killed himself. No doubt, it was due to PTSD (or shell shock, as they described it back then).

Note: his father was John Francis Tracey, and his brother was Frank Tracey. In 1911, they were living and working in Barrow-in-Furness, but John Joseph was born in Consett, Co. Durham.

Many thanks for your help.

Cheers,
Marianne

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / London Cordwainers
« on: Thursday 07 January 16 00:41 GMT (UK)  »
Great-grandfather learned the Shoemakers trade in the Navy.
When he got out, he settled in East-end London.
He and the family left London in 1870. They were sponsored by Mrs. Hobart (East London Emigration Fund).

Need a look-up for Richard Smith, b. 1834 (married to an Annie Elizabeth). Would he have paid into a union or guild? Was it common to learn this trade in the navy?

Thanks for whatever help you can provide.

Marianne

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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / East London Emigration Fund
« on: Monday 16 February 15 17:29 GMT (UK)  »
In 1870, my mother's father (Richard Smith) came with his parents and siblings (Richard Smith Sr.  was a shoemaker) to Canada (destination: Toronto) from London's East End.

While we have the ship's record of their crossing (June 1870 appears to be when they arrived), I would like more info about the signing up process in London. Would there be any records of this? If so, how do I obtain copies of them?

Thanks for your interest in this matter.

Marianne


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England / Re: Merchant Navy in Britain pre 1863
« on: Monday 22 December 14 15:04 GMT (UK)  »
My grandfather died in 1944, before I was born, but from the time I was little, I knew my grandfather's birthplace. However, maybe it was the birthplace for his sister and he was born elsewhere, but moved there as a baby. It is possible.

Given that his father had been in the navy, where are the likely ports that he would have ended up in after serving? This may give us a clue about where Richard Jr. was born.

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England / Re: Merchant Navy in Britain pre 1863
« on: Monday 22 December 14 14:00 GMT (UK)  »
I'm still no sure I understand how to do this.

Would the following be my next steps?
..contact the National Archives of Britain.
..ask for a copy of both records (since we're not sure which is the right one).

Would these birth certificates list an occupation of the father?
Would it list the mother's maiden name?

Next, is the reason that I am not finding the birth certificate online because many of the British-held vital statistics are not yet transcribed?

Thanks again.


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England / Re: Merchant Navy in Britain pre 1863
« on: Monday 22 December 14 13:30 GMT (UK)  »
Was registering births required?
Would there have been a cost?

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England / Re: Merchant Navy in Britain pre 1863
« on: Monday 22 December 14 12:06 GMT (UK)  »
Dates given on certificates:

Richard Smith Jr. was born 3 August, 1863 in London, England.
Anne Elizabeth Smith was born 2nd May, 1867 in London, England.

Given the common nature of their names and the fact that both were born in East End London (Cockney England), how would I go about getting their birth certificates?

Thanks.


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England / Re: Merchant Navy in Britain pre 1863
« on: Sunday 21 December 14 20:29 GMT (UK)  »
If Anne and baby were buried at sea, wouldn't there be a record somewhere?

Richard Jr. and his sister, Anne were both born in East End London (they were "Cockneys"). I assume the baby was born there too.


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