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Herefordshire / Re: Susannah Prosser vs. Susannah Prosser
« on: Tuesday 28 September 21 00:24 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: mckha489 on Monday 27 September 21 05:52 BST (UK)
Quote from: Peter Spering on Sunday 26 September 21 22:30 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,

I've looking into one specific line and have gotten back to a "Susannah Prosser", found thanks to the Herefordshire Bishop Transcripts on FamilySearch. However, things have gotten a bit dicey as when searching for a birth record, I see there were two such women who could potentially match. They were both born in Bodenham, Herefordshire, and in 1721. They both have christening/baptism records, one on June 10th and the other on October 8th. Both fathers are called Thomas, though the mothers have different names - Joan (June) and Mary (October).

The Familysearch profile has used both dates on one profile, as the birth and baptism/christening respectively. Considering that the mothers have different names though, this is surely a mistake?

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/M2MD-6HL

What a kerfuffle!  ???

So, is your question which of them is “yours”? 
If so, what are the names of “your” Susannah’s children?

Yes.

Our lass married a John Hadland in Ullingswick, and an Ancestry search pins down five children. My direct ancestor is the youngest, Thomas.

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Herefordshire / Susannah Prosser vs. Susannah Prosser
« on: Sunday 26 September 21 22:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I've looking into one specific line and have gotten back to a "Susannah Prosser", found thanks to the Herefordshire Bishop Transcripts on FamilySearch. However, things have gotten a bit dicey as when searching for a birth record, I see there were two such women who could potentially match. They were both born in Bodenham, Herefordshire, and in 1721. They both have christening/baptism records, one on June 10th and the other on October 8th. Both fathers are called Thomas, though the mothers have different names - Joan (June) and Mary (October).

The Familysearch profile has used both dates on one profile, as the birth and baptism/christening respectively. Considering that the mothers have different names though, this is surely a mistake?

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/M2MD-6HL

What a kerfuffle!  ???

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Census writing unclear?
« on: Friday 27 August 21 17:38 BST (UK)  »
Wow, yes! Thank you.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Census writing unclear?
« on: Friday 27 August 21 17:31 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to work out what the occupation is on a census record, but even touching up the faded image is only of limited use to me. To me, it looks like "Grocer and Lover Dealer" but I very much doubt that it is...  ;D

Can anyone decipher this for me?

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Ireland / Re: O'Neill
« on: Thursday 02 April 20 00:12 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: heywood on Wednesday 01 April 20 22:19 BST (UK)
My opinion is (from memory though but hopefully all is in this thread)

1901 and 1911 Murphy nephews link to Julia
1891 and birth records Murphys with mmn O’Neill

Mary Ann O’Neill (marriage) and mother Julia O’Neill (death) both have Sefton Square as an address.

John O’Neill, Police Officer found with family including Mary A in 1861.

The children have mmn McNamee in births and baptisms.

I think that this is good evidence for tying all this together.

To be absolutely sure that Mary Ann who married Michael Halligan is not the one from the above family, you would need to check her father John’s occupation from the marriage certificate.

I tracked down the marriage certificate, and it's a Catholic marriage. Took some bloody finding.

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Ireland / Re: O'Neill
« on: Wednesday 01 April 20 22:05 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: wivenhoe on Wednesday 01 April 20 03:30 BST (UK)

In researching the origins of Julia Joesphine O'NEILL, father Police Constable, married John BRAAMWELL, 1890, Liverpool Lancashire -

* the 1911 Census, with Joseph Patrick MURPHY 34y single b. Liverpool.....and.....James Francis MURPHY 37Y, married, b. Liverpool....recorded as nephews...leads to ....

* Mary Ann O'NEIL, married Terence MURPHY, 1873.

* Your Julia Josephine is possibly the daughter of the John O'NEILL - Julia McNAMEE family.

* Birth, Julia Josephine O'NEILL, 1870, West Derby......mms McNAMEE...is a good fit for your Julia.

* Mary Ann O'NEILL marr. Michael HALLIGAN, 1870...would seem to have a good claim to be the Mary Ann of the O'NEILL - McNAMEE family.

The two Mary Ann O'NEILLS become a problem.

*The Census describes people as relating to head of household....John BRAMWELL. The MURPHY nephews should be nephews of John BRAMWELL, but by the customs of the times, they could equally be nephews of Julia Josephine BRAMWELL nee O'NEILL, which is what we have pursued.

*Are the MURPHYs  BRAMWELL nephews, not O'NEILL nephews?

*If your Julia Josephine is daughter of O'NEILL - McNAMEE family, she is very young when Julia (McNAMEE) O'NEILL died, 1876.   Who raised her?. Where is your Julia in the 1881 Census?

The marriage certificate  BRAMWELL - O'NEILL, 1890.......can you list all the information on it please. There should be addresses....what are they?

Hi, here's the marriage record:


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Ireland / Re: O'Neill
« on: Tuesday 31 March 20 21:05 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Dundee on Tuesday 31 March 20 02:45 BST (UK)
Quote from: Peter Spering on Tuesday 31 March 20 01:35 BST (UK)
I'm just been perusing Ancestry trees and I've found multiple trees about the same John O'Neill. Apparently he was born to Joanna Flaherty and William O'Neill in Tralee and remarried after Julia's death. Most interestingly he seemed to spend parts of his life bobbing between Ireland, Australia and England.

That is just silly.  You would be a lot less confused if you stop looking at Ancestry trees.

Debra  :)

I was obviously cautious about it, so did try and track down the original person who compiled this, since it's an infection that's spread to many trees. One person I messaged said they didn't even know about any O'Neills and that they must have just blanket copied all the information. With that level of cautiousness, no wonder they've managed to rack up over 63000 people on their tree. Anyway, at least I was right to hold out from changing any established information on my tree and my Wikitree.

It's just frustrating that people can be so careless. In my view, genealogy should be treated as sacred. Here I am spending a week or more just to establish one generation as best I can, and there are some spending thirty seconds on it.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: This letter's handwriting is too fancy for me to read, can anyone help?
« on: Tuesday 31 March 20 20:11 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, that's very informative.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: This letter's handwriting is too fancy for me to read, can anyone help?
« on: Tuesday 31 March 20 02:47 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, I'll take a look.

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