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One Name Studies: T to Z / Re: WISDOM, (All)
« on: Thursday 13 October 05 10:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Jane
Thanks very much for this. The William Wisdom living in Castle Street in 1861 is indeed my great grandfather. He was still there in 1871 but moved shortly after to Shepherds Bush.
The Edwin Wisdom is indeed puzzling. Judging by the very unusual occupation and the birth location, I certainly assume He is related. Charles Summers Wisdom (who as far as I can tell established the Jewel Case Making firm), had a son Edwin but he was born in 1873. It is possible there was a third son of William Wisdom Senior born just before (or shortly after) he died in 1853. If so where was he living in 1861 when he was only 8? Also were there any other children between Charles and William?
Another mystery is who is Julia Wisdom? She reported William’s death in 1853 and was living at the same address as he was, but I have not found her in any census. In fact I have not found the family at all in the 1851 census. Most of his working life, William (snr) lived in poor tenements in the Marylebone area; in 1850 they lived at 37 Union Street and in 1853 this was 21 Bryanston Street, but were at neither address in 1851.
I have also been unsuccessful in locating William and Sarah Summers’s marriage certificate. I believe they were married around 1813 but have not located where. I have been looking in Marylebone and Wyvenhoe but maybe there is a clue in Yardley - did they have relations there?
The only possible birth I have for William is that of a William Wisdom who was christened on 10th January 1808 in St Mary, Lambeth, London, son of Thomas Wisdom and Elizabeth. But that is purely speculation at this stage.
Thanks again for your help
Murray
Thanks very much for this. The William Wisdom living in Castle Street in 1861 is indeed my great grandfather. He was still there in 1871 but moved shortly after to Shepherds Bush.
The Edwin Wisdom is indeed puzzling. Judging by the very unusual occupation and the birth location, I certainly assume He is related. Charles Summers Wisdom (who as far as I can tell established the Jewel Case Making firm), had a son Edwin but he was born in 1873. It is possible there was a third son of William Wisdom Senior born just before (or shortly after) he died in 1853. If so where was he living in 1861 when he was only 8? Also were there any other children between Charles and William?
Another mystery is who is Julia Wisdom? She reported William’s death in 1853 and was living at the same address as he was, but I have not found her in any census. In fact I have not found the family at all in the 1851 census. Most of his working life, William (snr) lived in poor tenements in the Marylebone area; in 1850 they lived at 37 Union Street and in 1853 this was 21 Bryanston Street, but were at neither address in 1851.
I have also been unsuccessful in locating William and Sarah Summers’s marriage certificate. I believe they were married around 1813 but have not located where. I have been looking in Marylebone and Wyvenhoe but maybe there is a clue in Yardley - did they have relations there?
The only possible birth I have for William is that of a William Wisdom who was christened on 10th January 1808 in St Mary, Lambeth, London, son of Thomas Wisdom and Elizabeth. But that is purely speculation at this stage.
Thanks again for your help
Murray