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William and others, thank you for your input which I really appreciate.
If you will bear with me, I'll list the information I have and perhaps you can help me decide where to start looking for various certificates.
In the time honoured way of family historians, I will start by working backwards and apologise in advance for the length of this note:
1881 Charles GRIFFITHS married Matilda WILLIAMS on 21 June 1881 in Acton, Cheshire. His age was given as 24, hers as 22. The marriage record was corrected by the Curate on 23 Dec 1881 to include the name "William" after Charles. Charles' place of residence was Hawarden (Flintshire), and his father was John GRIFFITHS, Ship broker. Matilda came from Acton and her father was Daniel WILLIAMS, farmer. Witnesses were Thomas ELLIS and Fanny WILLIAMS.
Family lore told of Charles drowning young (confirmed by maritime record as a "supposed drowning" whilst Master of the Accrington Lass in November 1882, aged 24).
His father, John GRIFFITHS was very involved with the Sabbath School at Connah's Quay run by the New Methodist Connexion.
Censuses
I found John GRIFFITHS in 1881 at Nine Houses, Shotton
John GRIFFITHS (60) Ship broker's clerk, b Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Elizabeth GRIFFITHS (63) b Shotton, Flint
Elizabeth ELLIS (12) g/dau b Hawarden
John died in 1897 as his Probate record indicated he lived at Nine Houses, and was a Shipper at the time of his death.
His widow, Elizabeth, appears in 1901 census (aged 73), still at Nine Houses, together with her g/dau Elizabeth ELLIS (22) and Charles ELLIS (10 months), gt/grandson.
In 1911 Elizabeth is still at Nine Houses (84), together with her g/dau Elizabeth ROBERTS (nee ELLIS) (32), widow, Charles ROBERTS (prev ELLIS) (10), Mary ROBERTS (7), , Thomas John ROBERTS (5)
Elizabeth died in 1916 and probate was granted to Thomas ELLIS (plumber).
However, in 1871 the only John GRIFFITHS I can find in Nine Houses is
John GRIFFITHS (40) b Shrewsbury, Shropshire, butcher and local preacher.
Mary (38) b Shotton together with Charles William (14), Caroline (12), John (9), Thomas (7)
1861 Nine Houses
John GRIFFITHS (29) butcher b Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Mary (28), Mary E (7), Charles W (4), Caroline (2)
Stephen HEWITT (24) lodger
The birth certificate I have received for Charles William GRIFFITHS
Born: 18 Nov 1856 Shotton, Hawarden.
Father, John GRIFFITHS, Guard on Railway
Mother: Mary formerly HEWITT
Registration: Great Boughton
Subdistrict - Hawarden
Counties: Chester & Flint
Questions:
1. Do you think I have the right family for Charles William GRIFFITHS?
2. I am puzzled by John GRIFFITHS' occupations: 1856 guard on railway, 1861, 1871 butcher, 1881 commercial clerk, 1891 Ship broker's clerk, Shipper. However, being the local preacher does seem to fit with the family stories.
3. I was also puzzled as to the change in the names and slight change in ages of John GRIFFITHS' wife but have had an "Aha" moment whilst writing all this out!
a) Mary must have died between 1871 and 1881 (which registration area would I look for her death?)
b) Then John remarried to Elizabeth HEWITT late in 1872 (reg Holywell) - perhaps she was Mary's sister, which seems to be borne out by Carole W's suggestion of an 1852 marriage in Lancashire (Manchester) to Mary HEWITT.
Thank you all for your patience!
Lizzie