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Messages - Debbie Roberts

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Sunday 25 October 15 17:49 GMT (UK)  »
I have just got the marriage cert back for 16th August 1856 with William Curtis aged 34 years - looks like bargeman, of west street, Gravesend - father deceased with name of Samuel - a labourer.  Ellen Allin aged 35 years spinster - no job of maybe Princes Street, Gravesend - father Joseph allin, deceased - plasterer.  He signed with a mark.  She wrote her name.  In the presence of Mary Ann Smith and Richard someone.

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleeky
« on: Tuesday 20 October 15 23:44 BST (UK)  »
Sorry predictive text gone a bit strange at the moment. 

Re Patrick Quinn not being officially in the police I remember talking to someone in Belfast years ago who looked him up in belleek area but there was no trace.  I may have who it was on my family tree maker notes but my PC takes so long to boot up I don't use it any more - I must invest in a new one some time!  He thought maybe he was a private detective . . .

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Tuesday 20 October 15 23:38 BST (UK)  »
Had Nigel. This girl is what I had seen in your notes:

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by: Nigel Osborne
Note: 22/1/2007 - Looked at 1856 St Giles 1b/397 Charles Smithem & Elizabeth May. Then found them (plus children aged 4,2,& 1mth) on 1861 census at St Martins in the Fields, Westminster.

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Tuesday 20 October 15 07:29 BST (UK)  »
Morning Nigel - it was from something I saw at the weekend which I thought said Charles and Elizabeth were living in st Giles, Westminster with their 3 children - I'll try and find it but I must have got it wrong if they were in tonbridge high street.

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Monday 19 October 15 07:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nigel

I realise Susan was born to jane and Charles in 1865 prior to their wedding in 1866.  I thought on the 1861 it says Charles and Elizabeth, with their 3 children aged 4 and 2 years and 1 month.  Also funny that Charles and Jane didn't marry til 1866 - maybe he was still legally married to Elizabeth in 1865 but she died the following year enabling him to marry Jane - who knows.

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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Sunday 18 October 15 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nigel

A long way to go to beleek from New Zealand.  I was in Dublin in January and nearly went there but I was only there for the weekend and it would have taken well over 2 hours, so decided not to.

I was also looking today for the marriage of Charles Smitherman to Elizabeth but can only find Charles smitherman marrying jane Quinn in 1866: their daughter Susan was born in 1865 . . .  Couldn't find the death of Elizabeth either.  It must have been a hard life - poor Mary onion, with Richard dying the year Mary Ann was born and then dying herself when Charles and Eliza were so young - then he being in the alms house with his grandmother when he was 13.  I wonder what happened to Elizabeth and the 3 children and was he a widower, as it states on his wedding certificate . . .  I ordered the marriage certificate of Ellen allin and William Curtis for Gravesend 1876 - you may have done this.  It would be lovely to nip back in time and find out what really went on.


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Fermanagh / Re: Jane QUINN, possibly of Beleek
« on: Sunday 18 October 15 06:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nigel

Did you manage to get to Belleek? The last I found out, years ago, was that our gr gr gr grandfather Patrick Quinn wasn't listed as officially in the police. 

Regards

Debbie

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