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None of the newspaper reports I've read said Mr Ansell was driving and as Cloude's son appeared as a witness to say  his father had been driving since 1902 had a clean licence and was  teetotal I assume he had been behind the wheel. A couple of reports say that the car was a Rolls Royce and one that it was a saloon. I imagine, depending on what damage had been done it, would have been quite possible for both victims to have been thrown from it considering the speed it was going.

Doing some Googling I found this post. Not of any help in discovering if Mr  Ansell was in a Bentley or not - newspaper reports say a Rolls Royce saloon - but the chauffeur, William Thomas Lionel Woodward Cloude, is buried in the churchyard of  All Saints Birling in Kent. I have no interest in him but  I was just going for a walk and saw his gravestone. Reading the newspaper reports of the time in 1933 the death rate on the roads was horrific and I can see why they introduced the driving test in 1935!

Thank you for all your replies. That's interesting about about the B groups showing up as European - I was curious about the B group as, apparently, the highest incidence of it appears in south east Asia, and gets less the further norther and west you travel  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_distribution_by_country

I still wonder about the usefulness of a test but it might be worth asking for one as a birthday present just out of curiosity and reading your replies I think MyHeritage sounds the best bet - it might well give me some clues to my grandfather's father.

My other grandfather, whose surname I had before marriage was, as far as I can see, pretty much 100% Essex right back to the C16th at least, and if anyone asks my ethnicity I always half jokingly reply "Trinovantes" - the Celtic tribe of pre-Roman Britain who lived in North Essex - but to be honest most DNA tests seem to give you such a mix of heritage that you can pretty much pick whatever one you want to be anyway.

Carole

The Ancestry tree looks far too open ended to me. All baptisms and no deaths. There are several PCC (Prerogative Court of Canterbury) wills for Jacksons from Whitby and I'd suggest reading through those as they may help sort out the relationships. They are on Ancestry and  you can find them here https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=5111

Wills can be very helpful and, in my opinion are a very under-used resource. Nicholas Jackson the master mariner, who made his will 07/09/1793 and which was proved on 10/05/1799  may not have had any children as there are none named  - which doesn't mean he didn't have them  but makes it unlikely. He mentions his brother Charles Jackson's sons Nicholas and William and other nieces and nephews Charles and Sophia Jackson. Other names mentioned are Heseltine and Smith. His brother Charles was the executor of the will.

Carole

Well I'm struggling to find any of them pre or post what happened. The girls mother, Alice Adelaide(sic) Brown died June quarter 1887 Liverpool aged 35, which means Alfred Robinson's wife Ann and his mistress Alice were both much the same age.



Carole