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Wicklow / Re: Wolverston
« on: Wednesday 16 March 22 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Here is the second part, good luck
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Wicklow / Re: Wolverston
« on: Wednesday 16 March 22 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello Julie,
I am not sure if you are writing about this for an article or for your family. I liked the way you were speculating, I find that if you are speculating that should be acknowledged in the book/article you are writing. Firstly because it is interesting and secondly because with the state of records in Ireland you may never find the paper work to prove absolutely your conclusions, so that an open mind should be kept by all. There is always the chance that with the internet and new sources being made accessible, as well as that useful tool DNA, that sometime in the near future that elusive proof might just turn up. In the meantime I will go through my old papers and see if I can find more notes on the Wolverston's. It might be at the end of April as I have an exhibition coming up in the middle of April and I need to concentrate on that. In the meantime here are some notes, I pull together on the Suffolk Wolverstons
regards
Aoife FitzGerald
The file is too big so I will send it in two parts
I am not sure if you are writing about this for an article or for your family. I liked the way you were speculating, I find that if you are speculating that should be acknowledged in the book/article you are writing. Firstly because it is interesting and secondly because with the state of records in Ireland you may never find the paper work to prove absolutely your conclusions, so that an open mind should be kept by all. There is always the chance that with the internet and new sources being made accessible, as well as that useful tool DNA, that sometime in the near future that elusive proof might just turn up. In the meantime I will go through my old papers and see if I can find more notes on the Wolverston's. It might be at the end of April as I have an exhibition coming up in the middle of April and I need to concentrate on that. In the meantime here are some notes, I pull together on the Suffolk Wolverstons
regards
Aoife FitzGerald
The file is too big so I will send it in two parts
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Travelling People / Re: Keenan/Berry/Knowles/McKenzie/Hutchinson travelers names in Cumberland, ENG?
« on: Wednesday 16 March 22 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your reply Chuck, best of luck in your research
regards
Aoife FitzGerald
regards
Aoife FitzGerald
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Wicklow / Re: Wolverston
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Julie
Here are some of the pedigrees I compiled, let me know what you think and do let me know if you see any mistakes
Aoife
Here are some of the pedigrees I compiled, let me know what you think and do let me know if you see any mistakes
Aoife
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Travelling People / Re: Keenan/Berry/Knowles/McKenzie/Hutchinson travelers names in Cumberland, ENG?
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 15:26 GMT (UK) »
hello Chuck,
How interesting, I am researching O'Keenan/Keenan in Co Down. The family were certainly wealthy in the early 1800's but because they remained RC at that period of history, certain descendants became very impoverished by the end of 1870 onward. The branch's that went to France (silk merchants) and Dublin City (scholars and professional types) remain either wealthy or well to do, those who went to Scotland were impoverished and mostly ended up in the Coal mining industry, some who went to England were either wealthy manufacturers or very impoverished. The same for those who went to America. It is an interesting family to research as you can see how the laws etc had an effect on the family's circumstances. In the early 1800's the family were cultured, highly literate and wealthy.
It would be interesting to see if some of this family ended up as traveller's, travellers a strong part of the keepers of story telling and traditional music in Ireland. Also a people displaced and discriminated against. It would be a very interesting social study if some of the Keenan descendants' originally from Co. Fermanagh who settled around Kilcoo Co Down before emigrating around the world, ended up as travellers in England
regards
Aoife
How interesting, I am researching O'Keenan/Keenan in Co Down. The family were certainly wealthy in the early 1800's but because they remained RC at that period of history, certain descendants became very impoverished by the end of 1870 onward. The branch's that went to France (silk merchants) and Dublin City (scholars and professional types) remain either wealthy or well to do, those who went to Scotland were impoverished and mostly ended up in the Coal mining industry, some who went to England were either wealthy manufacturers or very impoverished. The same for those who went to America. It is an interesting family to research as you can see how the laws etc had an effect on the family's circumstances. In the early 1800's the family were cultured, highly literate and wealthy.
It would be interesting to see if some of this family ended up as traveller's, travellers a strong part of the keepers of story telling and traditional music in Ireland. Also a people displaced and discriminated against. It would be a very interesting social study if some of the Keenan descendants' originally from Co. Fermanagh who settled around Kilcoo Co Down before emigrating around the world, ended up as travellers in England
regards
Aoife
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Wicklow / Re: Wolverston
« on: Saturday 01 July 17 11:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Philip,
I have'nt been looking into the Wolverston for a while, I am not sure if you are still interested in finding out more about the Wolverston's in Ireland. I have decided to tackle this over the next few weeks. I can now tell you that Capt. William Wolverston was the son of John Wolverston, who was the son of John Wolverston who married a daughter of Feagh O'Byrne. This John (William's grandfather) was the youngest son of James Wolverston of Stillorgan who amassed a huge fortune and his wife Margaret Archbold the daughter of Richard Archbold of Kilmacud. James Wolverston was the son of George Wolverston (Will 1608 and Eleanor Sarsfield the daugter of Patrick Sarsfield Esq of Tully. These Wolverston's were descended from the Wolferstons of Suffolk. I will let you know more or I can share the pedigrees I am building up, in say four weeks. I would love anything you have on the Wolverston, I have already collected quite alot and will be as I said gathering more in the next few weeks, in the GO, NLI, NAI and the Registry Office. If you are interested in what I have at the moment my email is (*)
regards
Aoife
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I have'nt been looking into the Wolverston for a while, I am not sure if you are still interested in finding out more about the Wolverston's in Ireland. I have decided to tackle this over the next few weeks. I can now tell you that Capt. William Wolverston was the son of John Wolverston, who was the son of John Wolverston who married a daughter of Feagh O'Byrne. This John (William's grandfather) was the youngest son of James Wolverston of Stillorgan who amassed a huge fortune and his wife Margaret Archbold the daughter of Richard Archbold of Kilmacud. James Wolverston was the son of George Wolverston (Will 1608 and Eleanor Sarsfield the daugter of Patrick Sarsfield Esq of Tully. These Wolverston's were descended from the Wolferstons of Suffolk. I will let you know more or I can share the pedigrees I am building up, in say four weeks. I would love anything you have on the Wolverston, I have already collected quite alot and will be as I said gathering more in the next few weeks, in the GO, NLI, NAI and the Registry Office. If you are interested in what I have at the moment my email is (*)
regards
Aoife
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Wicklow / Re: Wolverston
« on: Thursday 21 July 16 16:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Philip, I am also looking for Wolverston's in Ireland. William FitzGerald 1710-1770 living Co Kilkenny, Tipperary, Waterford was married three times, his 2nd wife was a Miss Volverston.
regards
Aoife
regards
Aoife
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