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Occupation Interests / Re: Excise officers
« on: Wednesday 07 June 23 22:07 BST (UK)  »
I’m also stuck on finding anything on my ancestor who was an Irish supervisor of excise. He was William Johnston, likely born around 1790, and was based in Granard, Longford at one time. He was married to Jane, and is possibly from Cavan. His younger daughter Alice was born around 1819 and is my 2x great grandmother. I would really appreciate any help as William and Jane are presenting a major brick wall.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Daft question re dna shared match
« on: Wednesday 27 July 22 17:09 BST (UK)  »
No you can’t tell which is through your mother or father by looking at the chromosomes, but what it shows is that your match likely relates to you and your partner through different families. Even if they don’t, they don’t share the same  chromosome with you both, so definitely not a close relation. It’s fun to identify how we relate to these people we don’t know, but it can be frustrating. I like puzzles, so I do enjoy working on my tree.

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Cavan / Re: Parentage of Thomas Stephens, born Cavan County 1813
« on: Monday 25 July 22 18:41 BST (UK)  »
I believe that Thomas was married to Margaret Scott and had about 4 children. It was after a son died that he stole and was convicted. He did apply at least twice for his wife and children to go to Australia , but was turned down. He then cohabitated/married Catherine. I have very strong DNA ties to descendants of both families, but do not descend from Thomas myself. This leads me to believe that I descend from his parents or grandparents through possibly the Johnstons. They lived nearby, and I see they did intermarry, but none seem to be mine. My William Johnston was born c. 1790.

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Longford / William Johnston excise man
« on: Monday 25 July 22 18:27 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find out about William and his wife Jane. The excise records are in England and are not on line, so I was wondering if anyone knows anything about these two. They were Protestant, and their daughter Alice, born c. 1819, immigrated to Australia. We have found a birth record for her brother William. I would presume William and Jane are born c. 1790. One of them has strong ties to the Stephens and Laheys of Cavan. My mtdna is H5a1, if that helps, as Jane is in my direct female line. Any help would be appreciated.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Colour coding matches
« on: Monday 25 July 22 16:54 BST (UK)  »
I use the colour coding and love it. It has helped answer many questions. The only problem is that I ran out of colours a very long time ago.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Where is the connection??
« on: Monday 25 July 22 16:48 BST (UK)  »
Remember DNA is completely random, and can greatly vary. However, there is a minimum and a maximum amounts of centimorgans  you can share in a relationship. It may help if you download one of the charts on line, and that will help you see if a certain relationship is feasible or not. If a group of shared matches go back to a common ancestor, then you have to start tracing his/her children, then their children etc. Draw up their trees, and it’s finding a man who was in the right locality.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Question about Ancestry DNA Ethnicity
« on: Monday 25 July 22 16:37 BST (UK)  »
They are based on the members, so it changes on Ancestry about once a year because more people join.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Trying to find an unknown ancestor
« on: Monday 25 July 22 16:35 BST (UK)  »
Look for the strongest DNA cousin on your father’s side. Then look at all their shared matches, and start looking at their trees for a common ancestor. If they don’t have a tree, message them and ask how they relate to another match. Most won’t reply, but at least one might. Make lots of notes and draw up their trees. Group them into your paternal mother’s side, and paternal father’s side. If you don’t know which is which, just family groups based on shared matches.  I did this and found that the father of my grandmother was one of two brothers. DNA from half 2nd cousins does not point strongly enough to which one. I also surprisingly discovered my grandmother had an affair which resulted in my father and one of his sisters. I have also found grandparents etc for friends. Sometimes it’s really fast and easy, but other times you have to wait for a “smoking gun” to show up, ie. a half 2nd cousin from that side of the family. Good luck.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: trying to find birth father
« on: Monday 25 July 22 16:22 BST (UK)  »
Look at the shared matches between you and the half sibling who you are in contact with. They will highly likely belong to your biological father’s family. Look for a common ancestor amongst them. I found who the father of my grandmother was by doing this, and then discovered, totally unexpectedly,  that she had an affair which resulted in my father and one of his sisters! No wonder none of my paternal 2nd cousins were not showing up as matches!  I found that a new half 1st cousin was wonderful and shared photos and stories. If people are on sites such as Ancestry, you would hope they will help you.

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