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Hello, thank you for your reply. Sorry to learn of your grandad passing back in 1989. My mother in law is Ida Phipps.  Her mum is Cecilia Turner. Cecilia died back in the 1950s when Ida was a young girl. She never knew her mum's family just knew some names.  She also had an aunt Ida Turner Horton to which she was named after. Ida is an only child, age 76 now. Her grand parents are Alfred Llewellyn Turner and Emma Bache. Love to hear from you.

Hello, I am working on my husbands family.  I have come across the Scamp surname but in records finding they are listed as Williams surname. Have no clue as to why that is. Here is some that I found.
 I came across my husbands family listed on the website  Romany Genes at this link: http://romanygenes.com/scamp-family/4528685510
This tells of the Lee family and that Tom Lee married Selina Scamp. Ok, so in the 1881 Census for Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales, they are listed as living with her parents Samuel Williams and Mary.  In Breconshire, Wales baptisma, 30 May 1852 is Celena Williams daughter of Samuel Williams and Piana Williams. In Beaufort, Monmouthshire, Wales is the son of Thomas Lee and Selina Lee named Seth Lee, 23 Apr 1882. The baptism of Seth Lee and wife Lucy Price is in Llangyfelach, Glamorganshire, Wales on 16 Aug 1910 named Frederick Lee.
When you look at the Romany Genes link site, they have the Lee family all coming from the Scamp surname and not Williams. Even Samuel Williams brother named Samson Williams is listed in the 1881 census in Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales as Williams. But again, on  the site he is listed as Scamp.

Hello Carole, I came across my husbands family listed on the website  Romany Genes at this link: http://romanygenes.com/scamp-family/4528685510 
This tells of the Lee family and that Tom Lee married Selina Scamp. Ok, so in the 1881 Census for Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales, they are listed as living with her parents Samuel Williams and Mary.  In Breconshire, Wales baptisma, 30 May 1852 is Celena Williams daughter of Samuel Williams and Piana Williams. In Beaufort, Monmouthshire, Wales is the son of Thomas Lee and Selina Lee named Seth Lee, 23 Apr 1882. The baptism of Seth Lee and wife Lucy Price is in Llangyfelach, Glamorganshire, Wales on 16 Aug 1910 named Frederick Lee.
When you look at the Romany Genes link site, they have the Lee family all coming from the Scamp surname and not Williams. Even Samuel Williams brother named Samson Williams is listed in the 1881 census in Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales as Williams. But again, on  the site he is listed as Scamp. 

I have came across the Scamp surname. However, the records in Wales the same exact Scamp surname they are going by surname of Williams.  For example, Samuel Williams and wife Piana.  They are in baptism records, and census as Williams as well as Samuels siblings and descendants as Williams. But earlier they are Scamp surname. Why would this happen? Any suggestions?