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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Monday 29 August 22 01:55 BST (UK)  »
But it also seems strange that he was sentenced to Life for Housebreaking & stealing a Crown piece (5 shillings?) while she was given 10 years for stealing clothes worth 15 pounds.
He was tried in Somerset, & she at the Old Bailey.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Sunday 28 August 22 10:32 BST (UK)  »
I can't make it out - perhaps solitary confinement?
See attached
Cheers
Charlie

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Sunday 28 August 22 06:49 BST (UK)  »
Many Thanks for all of this.
I can see now that the notes above the line pertain to the previous convict record.
But  '6 mos hard labour' - she was pregnant at this time - as a result of allowing a man (her future husband Thomas Shorland/Sharland - married 1846) into her bedroom) Seems a bit harsh!!
But also - after this entry - does it go straight into 'Conditional Pardon - on 21.4.1846 Class 3'?
I know there were classes of probation, but do you know what Class 3 restrictions were?
I also have now found the Conduct record for Thomas Shorland - which again, have parts difficult to decipher. I will upload it on a separate post.
Many Thanks again for all your help.
Cheers
Charlie


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Saturday 27 August 22 09:12 BST (UK)  »
You could be right, Wiggy
 I looked again at the full page at:
Record of Conduct: https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON40-1-2$init=CON40-1-2p241
Nothing seemed to be recorded about these items in the Uni of Tasmania database.
Cheers
Charlie

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Saturday 27 August 22 02:16 BST (UK)  »
More on the name Montague - I accessed the database of Female Convicts at the Uni of Tasmania.
Montague was in fact the "Master" (presumably of the establishment she was assigned to) - date of offence 11th August 1843, the magistrate's initials given as P.S.
Plus probation noted 21st April 1846 '3rd Class'.
I'm still trying to decipher the writing at the top of the form - dates beginning 27/4/1844.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you again for all your help.
Charlie

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Thursday 25 August 22 22:55 BST (UK)  »
This is really interesting - and a great help.
Thank you so much.
Cheers
Charlie

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Thursday 25 August 22 07:23 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks to everyone.
A little more of the puzzle in place.
Best Wishes
Charlie

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« on: Thursday 25 August 22 04:10 BST (UK)  »
Caroline Cottrell born 1817, was my 3X Great Aunt. She was convicted of stealing at the London Old Bailey in 1842, and transported to Van Diemen's Land, sentence 10 years.
I found her record of conduct at https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON40-1-2$init=CON40-1-2p241
But it's quite hard to decipher. I have attached the relevant snip.
Can anyone tell me what this says please?
Many thanks in anticipation
Charlie


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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Charles Wilson Cottrell
« on: Saturday 20 August 22 03:57 BST (UK)  »
Hello kmf
Charles is my Great Grandfather too.
I still am wondering what the occasion was when the photo was taken.
Best Wishes
Charlie

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