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Midlothian / Re: McGregor look up please--Edinburgh
« on: Tuesday 24 April 07 03:50 BST (UK)  »
  Thanks so much  to you all for your help.  Jap, I don,t know for sure what state they would have landed in, but most probably it was Victoria , New South Wales or South Australia.Not much to go I know.Are you able to get passenger lists from Scotland to Australia over there.[ in the 1800S] I have searched all the ones I can find here--no luck. If they traveled in steerage they may not be documented. Where do you think would be the most probable departure point in Scotland?


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Midlothian / McGregor look up please--Edinburgh
« on: Monday 23 April 07 05:15 BST (UK)  »
My great great grandfather was James McGregor. He married Margaret Peacock at Hawick in early 1800s. Their children were David[ died] then another David, Jane[ or Jean] Joseph , and Robert. Robert was born in Edinburgh. Could anyone please find out for me if they are mentioned on the 1841 census for Edinburgh.They came out to Australia in the 1800s, James was a cabinet maker.
Also are there any records available showing when they would have left Scotland for Australia.I presume that they were assisted passengers. Thank you for any help.

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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / Re: James Hill--from Upton--was he a convict?
« on: Sunday 04 March 07 02:26 GMT (UK)  »
 Thanks Chris,
 I will let you know how I get on. I guess that will solve something once and for all.
Regards
Lyn

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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / Re: James Hill--from Upton--was he a convict?
« on: Saturday 03 March 07 08:12 GMT (UK)  »
  Hi Chris,
 The convict story came from my father[ James Hills' grandson] who died in 1981. At the time I wasn't interested in the family tree so didn't persue the matter.I have just recently began the search after a lay off of about 6 years. I did contact the Tasmanian archives then and they provided me with info that a James Hill [ there were several but this one seemed about right age wise]  was transported to Van Dieman's Land in 1848 on the ship 'Ratcliffe', given a ticket of leave[ which fits dad's story], and disposed into private service, wages were 12 pounds per annum.But it doesn't tell me where , or to whom, he was disposed to, or what his crime was.
His convict number was 35906, and the departure point of the Ratcliffe was Spithead. Departure date was 29/7/1848[ which would have made him about 18 years old], arrival date was 12/11/1848, conduct record number CON33/91,
Indent CON14/40, Description List CON18/50[  whatever all that means].

He was married to Jane McGregor on Jan1st 1856 at Golf Hill[ a sheep station near Shelford, Victoria.[She was a domestic servant at the station].

His occupation on his marriage certificate looks like Grocer, age 24, married at Golfhill, Riverleigh. Vic.

I know his movements, family etc after his marriage, but how he arrived here is yet to be proven.

Thanks for your interest,
Regards
Lyn


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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / Re: James Hill--from Upton--was he a convict?
« on: Saturday 03 March 07 03:50 GMT (UK)  »
 Hi Brian,

I may have to forego the 'convict' search, as I agree, it sounds unlikely that James would need to be a poacher, if his father owned so much land and was evidently not short of a quid.He may have decided to start a new life in Australia, as his older brother Edward took over the farm when Thomas died. His marriage certificate states that he was a grocer[ the writing was difficult to decipher] when he married on Jan1st 1856 at Golf Hill Station, Brimleigh, Victoria.
He later became the proprietor of the Carnham hotel, near Ballarat, Victoria.
Later he selected land in the north of the state, and tried farming, but this venture failed due to droughts etc.
I have searched all available passenger lists , but then if he travelled in steerage, his name may not have been recorded on any lists.Also many passenger lists are not available, having been destroyed etc.
I know most of his history since arriving here but cannot find out exactly how he got here in the first place.His death certificate doesn't shed much light as to how he got here either.
Sooo- I will keep searching. If he was an emmigrant, which port do you think he may have left from?

Thanks heaps for your help.
Regards
Lyn

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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / Re: James Hill--from Upton--was he a convict?
« on: Friday 02 March 07 01:32 GMT (UK)  »
 Hi Brian,
 Thanks so much for the info. We were in the UK a few years ago, but on a bus tour, so unfortunately did not have a chance to spend more time and go to Upton,  am still hoping to go back one day.
I have done extensive reearch on the Hill family , the only part I can't find out for sure is how James made his way to Australia. My dad always said he was a convict, and sent here for poaching, but if he lived on a farm, why would he want to do that??The mystery deepens. Do you live near Upton?. I would love to make contact with any of Thomas' family and have put a message on the Somerset board so here's hoping someone may pick it up. although I realize that the chances are probably slim.
Thanks again
Lyn

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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / Re: James Hill--from Upton--was he a convict?
« on: Thursday 01 March 07 03:54 GMT (UK)  »
 Thanks Brian,
If I ever get back to UK I would love to stay in the cottage  of my  ancestor.

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Somerset / Looking for Hill descendants, from Upton
« on: Thursday 01 March 07 03:07 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find any descendants of Thomas and Jane Hill, from 'Upton Farm' Upton, Somerset. I think Thomas died May 14th 1853. His grave may be in the churchyard of the now ruins of St James church, which was close to his farm. Some of his children are also buried there--Jane his wife[ 1862], Samuel, Grace, Henry, Jane[ his children]
His son Edward, married Emma? children were Rosa Jane, Elizabeth, John, Emma
Other members of Thomas'  family were Elizabeth[ married Charles Hill,]  Mary Ann Hill [ married John Hill from Bampton], Sarah Hill [ married Laurence Dart-of Dulverton] , Grace Anna [ married James Collier Knowlman . Cove. Tiverton]
Thomas's son James came to Australia in the 1840s or 50s.
Hoping to make contact with any descendants. Thanks

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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / James Hill--from Upton--was he a convict?
« on: Thursday 01 March 07 01:09 GMT (UK)  »
 Hi,
I am led to believe that my gr gr grandfather, James Frederick Hill[ son of Thomas and Jane Hill], was sent to Australia as a ticket-of-leave convict, [ his crime was poaching] in the late 1840s 0r 1850s. He lived at Upton, on a farm called 'Upton Farm'[ in the Brendon Hills ].
If this story has any truth, where would he be likely to have been tried and sentenced for his crime. any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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