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Wendy. I've just noticed your post on Bartholomew Downie.
In my tree I have Elizabeth Downie born about 1871 in the east end of Glasgow, probably Calton or around the High Street. Her parents were Thomas Downie born about 1835 and Mary Flynn born about 1836 , both in Ireland. Elizabeth married Bartholomew Collins and one of their children was called Bartholomew, born 1905 in Cumberland Street in the Gorbals in Glasgow. Is there a connection to you in this?

Francois, sorry no connection to my tree.

Thank you for that.  The cause of death is given as Dropsy, so would there be a record, perhaps a police doctor report? It is sad to think he may have been homeless or a vagrant, perhaps even the family didn't know as the 1861 census shows his wife as still married, and still living at same address of the 1851 census when the family were all together  or..../???

Regards post on James armand carloman 16/1/1897 he is my grandfather he married Maggie Stevens they had 2 sons (James and Henry ) Henry was known as Harry ..who was my father (14/8/1931-06/03/2018

Hi Chris,     Your great grandfather Armond, is my husbands 2xgreat grandfather, can we share any information?

Hi Wendy, don't know if you are aware that there is a descendant of Angelinas with a profile on Geni. They also have the names Coats and Downie listed

Val

Is there any way of getting this information without joining another geneology site? Free trials always catch me out and I find myself with membership of numerous sites!

Quote from: Skoosh on Friday 03 November 17 10:44 GMT (UK)

So he's moved here after the Famine, the Irish folk were badly hit by the cholera epidemic which swept the east end of the city post-famine!

Skoosh.

His wife is listed as "Married" in the 1861 census and we can find no death record

Hi, can't see any sign of Bartholomew . I wonder if  this could be his son John.

John Downie  married Margaret Martin 1865 Hutchesontown Glasgow SP index

Bartolommew  b. 1866 Abbey Paisley.  D 1866 Abbey Paisley

John b. 21mar 1868 Blythswood  Glasgow
William b 8 Jan 1870 Blythswood Glasgow
Matthew b 13 mar 1872 Blythswood Glasgow
George b 28 Aug 1874 Hutchesontown Glasgow
The 1865 marriage cert would confirm John's parents names and if they were still alive.

Also saw this possible death for Margaret, Margaret Downie other name Martin  86 yrs 1931 Kelvin
Glasgow.

Hi, Thankyou, sent us off down another route and found marriage cert stating Bartholomew as deceased, now wondering if he succumbed to Cholera between 1861/65. Also found son John in 1861 census in "Boys house of Refuge" in Duke St Glasgow

Hi, can't see any sign of Bartholomew . I wonder if  this could be his son John.

John Downie  married Margaret Martin 1865 Hutchesontown Glasgow SP index

Bartolommew  b. 1866 Abbey Paisley.  D 1866 Abbey Paisley

John b. 21mar 1868 Blythswood  Glasgow
William b 8 Jan 1870 Blythswood Glasgow
Matthew b 13 mar 1872 Blythswood Glasgow
George b 28 Aug 1874 Hutchesontown Glasgow
The 1865 marriage cert would confirm John's parents names and if they were still alive.

Also saw this possible death for Margaret, Margaret Downie other name Martin  86 yrs 1931 Kelvin
Glasgow.
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