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21 July 1890 is a BURIAL date for Ellen Parker, aged 26.

Transcript in Genuki for Swinton St. Margaret: https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/WathUponDearne/SwintonBurials1889-1892

Thanks! That was my mistake, I typed it in as death instead of burial, apologise for the confusion!

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Miners were one of the more mobile occupations, so she might not necessarily have been born in Swinton.

One family that might be worth investigating is of a John Lawrence in Swinton in the 1881 census - RG11/4683 fo71 p40. He and the 4 older sons listed are all miners, and all were born in Staffordshire. There's another younger son aged 12, also born Staffordshire, suggesting they didn't go to Swinton before about 1869.

This same family seems to be in Cannock, Staffs in 1871 (RG10/2925 fo25 p44), and there's an Ellen aged 5. Looks promising....

Added:
I think this Ellen (as Elenor) in still in Staffordshire in 1881, with her brother Thomas.

Thanks for the reply!
I've had a look at both records and it certainly looks promising!
what I find interesting is that this Ellen came from Staffordshire as did her father-in-law William Parker who was also a miner and moved about.
Yes, that is true that miners did move around more than other workers, I have a lot of mining history where majority of my ancestors have moved about from one colliery to the next.

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If, so far, the earliest evidence you have that your Eleanor existed is her name on the marriage certificate, 1884, then everything else on the certificate is important.  Including -

What church did she marry in?

What names for witnesses?

What details for husband?

Thanks for the reply!

On the marriage certificate;
Marriage is solemnized at the parish church in the parish of Swinton.
Husband - James Parker, 22, bachelor, miner, Swinton, father William Parker - miner.
Witnesses - William Collins and Hannah Hill

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Hi, I'm trying to find any information about my ancestor Elenor Laurance, the only records I can find on her are her marriage certificate and her death record, but I can't find her before her marriage. Not in either the 1871 or 1881 census before her marriage, I'll add all the details I know about her.

Marriage
Marriage to James Parker 8th September 1884, Swinton, Rotherham, S. Yorks.
Age 19 and a half (which would have her birth as abt 1865), a spinster living in Swinton father named John Laurance a miner.

I have checked different spellings of both Elenor and Laurence in the 1881 census in and around the Swinton area, and I have looked for her in the 1871 census, again nothing.

Death
21 July 1890, Swinton, Rotherham.

I have yet to find any other records for her, no birth or baptism record, could it be that she wasn't baptised? Could she be illegitimate and made up the name of John Laurence? or an Orphan? 

Any information would be greatly appreciated!


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Northumberland / Re: Research information needed
« on: Monday 27 November 17 06:25 GMT (UK)  »
This area appear  Perhaps your ancestor may have attended this Church of he lived in the area?

How lovely, Thank you for sharing that with me. It's a nice thought. I have a very vivid imagine of how the village would have looked while he was there. Thank you.

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Northumberland / Re: Research information needed
« on: Sunday 26 November 17 17:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Frank_14
Boldon Colliery is where I was born and most of my relatives lived in either Boldon Colliery or West Boldon.
In answer to your first question your relative would more than likely worked at Boldon Colliery Pit, because depending on which part of West Boldon he lived at, he would of been 1 to 2 miles from the Pit. There are two good books which will give you a understanding of Boldon: 'The Peoples History, THE BOLDONS' by Tom Bainbridge and 'Boldon Colliery a Proud Heritage' by David Temple.
Out of interest who was your Relative.

Hi, Thanks that is very interesting and hugely appreciated. My ancestor wasn't born there he was from Yorkshire, he just moved there, but his name was Walter Dannatt.


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Northumberland / Re: Research information needed
« on: Sunday 26 November 17 14:54 GMT (UK)  »
Simply googling west boldon.  Or boldon colliery. And images.  Produces a good few images of the village and colliery.

As mining villages go it looks better than most, but life in the colliery in the northeast was a bit grim.

The village looks to have a pub and surrounded by open fields, and likely had a good community spirit.

Mike

That's good to hear, thanks!

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Northumberland / Re: Research information needed
« on: Sunday 26 November 17 14:26 GMT (UK)  »
You can see west boldon and boldon colliery on this map

http://maps.nls.uk/view/101099465

Mike
Thanks, that's great!

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Northumberland / Re: Research information needed
« on: Sunday 26 November 17 14:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hello & welcome  ;D. I am sure you will find a lot of knowledgeable people here to help.

This query is probably best dealt with on the Northumberland board. If you click 'Report to Moderator' under your post you can ask for it to be moved.

Josey
Hello, thanks for the advice. I'll do that.

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