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Antrim / Re: Neill family - British Columbia and No. Ireland
« on: Tuesday 13 February 18 19:25 GMT (UK)  »
Sally

Sorry for taking so long to replay but I had to call in my daughter and son in law to assist in scanning document and getting it in a format to send. Unfortunately your email address has now been removed. It was there first time I looked at your reply. My email is Removed

Fitzsimmons is not a name that I have come across in relation to the Neills.

Do you have any more information on Ellen and James Neill from the headstone?

If you come to Ireland I will gladly show you around.

Regards

George

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Antrim / Re: Neill family - British Columbia and No. Ireland
« on: Thursday 28 December 17 20:54 GMT (UK)  »
Sally

I too only became interested in family history only after my father passed away. When my brotheres and I were clearing the house we found a lot of family history stuff which I took away to go through at my leisure. Not much concerned the Neill family but it did contain a magazine, Irish Family Links, Vol:2 No's 9&10, Jan/May 1987. The editors of this magazine (published by the Irish Heritage Association) were husband and wife Kathleen and Don Neill. It contains an article on Don's family history. Don's full name was Samuel Donaldson Neill; his parents were Samuel (Sam) Neill born 16.8.1896-2.4.1978 and Florence Margaret Ethel Jamesina Donaldson. Don's grandparents were Samuel Neill 5.12.1869-1.12.1912 and Margaret Jane Hanna. Samuel was a son of Samuel Neill and Susanna Brown and was born at Ballymorran but moved to work in the Dunmurry area.

The Samual who died 1912 actually drowned in the Pitt River at Hammond BC where he had gone to investigate the possibilities of emigrating; he had left his wife and family at home in Dunmurry.

Children that i know of Samuel Neill and Sarah Martin married 23.4.1832; Hugh, Mary, Jane b 27.12.1837, James b 26.12.1839, Samuel and Sarah twins b 21.6.1841, Thomas Osborne b 9.4.1843, Isabella b 6.7.1846 and Grace b 25.12.1853.

Samuel 21.6.1841-17.3.1909 married Susanna Brown (daughter of Hugh Brown) ans had the following children; Isabella (called Bella) d 18.2.1940, Hugh 15.1.1868-9.2.1871,Samuel, Alexander 9.7.1871-19.7.1882, Ellen Jane 4.2.1875-17.8.1946, Robert James b 24.12.1878, David Ruthmore b 16.1.1880, Alex(ander)15,7,1882-18.11.1910, Hugh b 15.11.1884, Daniel Edwin b 18.4.1887.

The children of Samuel Neill and Margaret Jane Hanna; Richard Butler b 13.8.1894 married Anna Brownlee of Belfast and emigrated to Toyota New Jersey, Samuel, David emigrated to Canada (Geraltown Ontario), Lily (Elizabeth) Madge married William Ward of Cavan and they were living Hillsborough in 1978.

The Neill homestead, i think it was called Glenbrook farm, is located where the Ballymorran Road bends at a right angle away from the coast and the house is in the angle. Ballymorran Cottages are on the other side of the road. Quartelands Road joins the Ballymorran Road about 50 yards from the right angle bend.

Mary Agnes and George Aleaxander's children were Edward b 1917, Alice Jane (my mother) 4.2.1921-25.3.2013, Georgie (died aged about 15 after falling from a wall) and Annabeth (Anna Elizabeth Grace) 1924-2011. Edward had a son Ian and daughters Joan(Morris), Helen (Hammond) and Helen. Annabeth's children are Marilyn (Marshall), Andra (Martin) and Vivienne.

Other Neill cousins that I know of who are still alive; Rosemary Dowling (her grandmother Sara Neill and my grandmother were cousins, but who her parents were I don't know. Sara had three sisters who became Mrs Lambe (2 un-married grand daughters still alive in the South of England), Mrs Gold, family died out, and Mrs Monteith. There are some Monteiths still living but I don't know them. Annie Garret may be a great grand daughter of Thomas Osborne Neill. Thomas Osborne married Margaret Lyons 11.1.1868, their children; Thomas b 26.4.1870, John b 6.2.1872, James b 14.3.1874,Grace b 28.8.1876, Hugh Stevenson b 23.1.79, Sarah Jane b 8.12.1881, Robert Martin b 1.4.1884, Margaret b 10.10.1886.

A lot of the info is from the Irish Family Links, Jan/May 1987. I don't know if it is still available but I could copy and forward if you like.

Seasons greetings (belatedly)

Regards

Cousin George

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Antrim / Re: Neill family - British Columbia and No. Ireland
« on: Wednesday 20 December 17 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
Sally

My great grandfather, James Neill 1839-1918/19, was a brother of Samuel Neill 1842-1909. Their parents were Samuel Neill and Sarah, married 23.4.1832.  Sarah's father was Hugh Martin of Ballymacreeley.

James Neill married Alice Jane Lawther, nee Jackson, and their children were my grandmother Mary Agnes, Alexander and George Robert. My mother was born at the Neill family homestead and moved to the Curragh, Ballygeegan when she was 4. Presumably this family rented a farm there which passed to my mother's brother George Robert.

The Neill family home was the Glen farm, Ballymorran. There is a plaque on the cottage dating it 1702. It is thought that the family occupied the farm since then (when they are thought to have moved there from the Killyleagh area) until Ellen Jane's death. The cottage is now owned by Gordon Flinn grandson of Davy Flinn who married Ellen Jane. Davy was a widower when he married Ellen Jane and they did not have any children.

My grandmother was therefore a cousin of Hugh, Ellen Jane, Edwin, David, Isabella, known as Bella, etc.

I think Edwin must have returned from Canada and is buried at Killinchy Presbyterin Church. His children that I know of were 1)Margaret who married Hector Dempster and had a son Neill David, all three deceased; 2)Edwin, died 1960, who also married a Margaret, died 1996. I don't know if they had children.

Bella also went to Canada but returned home following an accident working in a laundry and lived with Ellen Jane and Davy.

In 1862 the farm consisted of 27 acres and was rented from John Cleland for £25 per year.

David and Bella did not marry.

I live at Castle Espie about 6 miles from the Neill homestead.

Regards

George Harper (a very distant cousin)

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