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Caernarvonshire / Re: Thomas Pepper
« on: Saturday 01 September 18 06:24 BST (UK)  »
A last update on Thomas Pepper aka Joseph Kennedy. I followed up "Keyboard 86's" last comment regarding the marriage of Joseph K Pepper and Elizabeth Jones in 1914 and ordered a marriage certificate. And yes they are my great grand parents, he has put his address as the Marconi Station which where he was a signal man and she has put Shirehall street which again ties in with the notes on Joseph Kennedy army records. They had previously declared on the army paperwork that they got married in 1886, I can only guess that they realised that in order for Elizabeth to get any future army pension, they would need to prove they were married. Joseph stated that his fathers name is Christopher Pepper? I cant find any evidence to back this up and wondered if it was just away of giving the use of the adopted Pepper name some credence ? Elizabeth's father is William Jones an engine driver.  Another interesting point is that I found the census for 1891 Bicester Oxford and Joseph and Elizabeth, their eldest daughter Mary and my grand father Edward Thomas are all listed but as "Kennedy" rather than "Pepper", so what ever happened to cause him to change his name happened between 1891 and 1901 when they appear in Caernarfon as Thomas and Elizabeth Pepper.  I don't why the name of "Thomas" was used and why it wasn't included on their marriage certificate.

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Thank you very much for helping me- i was searching with 0 +/- years. Its much appreciated

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I'm not having much luck with the GRO site-  I know that according to the census Sophia (1887)and Hannah (1895) ,their siblings Kate ( 1891) and Ellis (1888) were born in Abergele, and yet when I go on the gro site- I cant seem to find them - how do I know which District office to enter for the register of births? I had thought St Asaph but don't seem t be having any luck getting any results.
 Also the eldest son Robert William Jones was born in 1886 in Betws Y Coed and on Ancestry it came up with a birth record for Conway 11b 515- I have put all that information in the GRO and it still says no records ?
What am I doing wrong? Any ideas ???

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Thank you very much for your help both of you.

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ok - so just to clarify, the birth registers of the children show what the mothers maiden name was? I never realised that.

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Yes , Sophia was born in 1887 and died in 1968, Hannah was born in 1895 but I don't have date of death.

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Hello, is anyone able to help me? These are my great grand parents, they lived in Abergele and he was a blacksmith living in "Bod Heulog". I want to try and find out a little more more about Elizabeth, BUT all I know is that according to the 1891 census she was born in Fronwynwent, Cardigan and the 1901 and 1911 census both say born in Bronant Cardiganshire, the 1911 also says they have been married for  years  so married around 1885?
 The problem is that I don't know her maiden name and of course these are very common names around these parts.  I don't know how to progress.  Does anyone have any advice as to the best course of action? I'm not even sure when she died but it was after her husband and I know she came to the Caernarfon area with her daughter Hannah to live with her daughter Sophia Parry before her died. Thank you, Sue

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Thomas Pepper
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 16:15 BST (UK)  »
Me again, following on from all the previous information and advice and having already tried for marriage certificate (26/3/86) for Thomas Pepper and Elizabeth Jones from the GRO, I tried again and requested one for Joseph Kennedy and Elizabeth but that was rejected too.  I have tried a census search on Joseph Kennedy birth place of birth as St marks Leicester as that is what he filled in on his army application when he was 22 in 1885 occupation Tailor.
The only census entry I have found so far is for a Joseph Kennedy in 1871 with parents Patrick and Maria in St Marks Leciester.  Is it too much of a leap of faith to think this could be the right Joseph Kennedy? any thoughts?

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Family History Beginners Board / JR Parry coalmerhants castle square caernarfon
« on: Saturday 07 April 18 20:55 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to get more information on my great aunt and her husband- She was Sophia Jones (born in Abergele) and she married Jack Parry (Oct 1914). They ran JR Parry coal merchants in Castle Square Caernarfon.   I can't trace him at all but although he was known as Uncle Jack, that may not have been his name- he could have been John or James.  I can't find any birth record or burial record I just wondered if anyone knew of any business records that can be checked to find out what the J R  stood for?  He died roughly in 1930 and was living in Caernarfon at the time.  Aunty Soph continued to run the business after he died, and later on her nephew Gwilym worked there.  Any ideas ? Regards, Sue

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