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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Sarah Gay (possibly Gey/Gaye), born c. 1787 Bradford-on-Avon
« on: Saturday 19 June 21 00:38 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's him. There is a nephew by the same name, born c. 1794, but the age of 82 clinches it.
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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Sarah Gay (possibly Gey/Gaye), born c. 1787 Bradford-on-Avon
« on: Friday 18 June 21 15:31 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Gadget and Colin; much of that information is new to me and all of it is helpful 
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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Sarah Gay (possibly Gey/Gaye), born c. 1787 Bradford-on-Avon
« on: Thursday 17 June 21 09:05 BST (UK) »
Hi, can anyone help with baptism/s or other docs in Bradford-on-Avon, c. 1787, for a Gay family, in relation to a Sarah Gay, whom two censuses (1861, 1871) said was born there?
A tree at FamilySearch may, possibly, suggest that she is the Sarah Gay baptised 8 June 1788 @ the Independent Chapel, Corsham – parents John & Betty Gay. However, Gay/Gaye/Gey etc is a common name in Wilts at the time, and while Corsham is close to Bradford, experience teaches me to be cautious.
One Census (1851) has her born "Bath, Somerset", which is where Sarah lived after marrying (i.) John Masling (1807) and (ii.) William Small (1821). (as far as I know) Those marriage records don't provide her parents' names.
I don't have access to wills/probate at the moment, but I'm told that Sarah is named as "niece" of Jasper Gay (or "Gey") of Bath, in his will dated 1838. (Some trees on Ancestry have her as Jasper's daughter which I believe is incorrect.)
In 1837, Sarah was widowed for a second time and in 1851 & 1861 she was living in Surrey with her daughter and son in law, Jane and Owen Bowen. In 1871, Sarah, a "laundress" was back in Bath, at the house of her younger son, John Small, "Coach Painter & Finisher".
Thank you
A tree at FamilySearch may, possibly, suggest that she is the Sarah Gay baptised 8 June 1788 @ the Independent Chapel, Corsham – parents John & Betty Gay. However, Gay/Gaye/Gey etc is a common name in Wilts at the time, and while Corsham is close to Bradford, experience teaches me to be cautious.
One Census (1851) has her born "Bath, Somerset", which is where Sarah lived after marrying (i.) John Masling (1807) and (ii.) William Small (1821). (as far as I know) Those marriage records don't provide her parents' names.
I don't have access to wills/probate at the moment, but I'm told that Sarah is named as "niece" of Jasper Gay (or "Gey") of Bath, in his will dated 1838. (Some trees on Ancestry have her as Jasper's daughter which I believe is incorrect.)
In 1837, Sarah was widowed for a second time and in 1851 & 1861 she was living in Surrey with her daughter and son in law, Jane and Owen Bowen. In 1871, Sarah, a "laundress" was back in Bath, at the house of her younger son, John Small, "Coach Painter & Finisher".
Thank you
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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« on: Monday 15 June 20 08:31 BST (UK) »
Alan, yes that's probably them.
Although ... some trees have that Susanna as his mother (nee Culham). The sources are not named, but I guess it wasn't unprecedented for a woman in the 18th century to outlive her oldest son.
Although ... some trees have that Susanna as his mother (nee Culham). The sources are not named, but I guess it wasn't unprecedented for a woman in the 18th century to outlive her oldest son.
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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« on: Monday 15 June 20 05:36 BST (UK) »
For what it's worth, Thomas Louch "of Sandford" appears to have died and been buried in the first week of April 1780:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8YS-96T
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8YS-96T
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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 19:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Alan. I am fortunate to have access to the results of some old genealogical research by a distant cousin – but not fortunate enough to know what all of the original sources were.
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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 14:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie; I have the following christenings:
* Mary, 1761 (Kingston Bagpuize);
* Susanna, 1762 (Kingston Bagpuize);
* Mary, 1764 (Besselsleigh);
* Briant, 1768 (Besselsleigh);
* Hannah, 1770 (Besselsleigh);
* Hannah, 1773 (Besselsleigh);
* Rachel, 1776 (Besselsleigh).
So the names Mary and Hannah appear to have been recycled. (It looks like the first Mary died soon after being christened.)
* Mary, 1761 (Kingston Bagpuize);
* Susanna, 1762 (Kingston Bagpuize);
* Mary, 1764 (Besselsleigh);
* Briant, 1768 (Besselsleigh);
* Hannah, 1770 (Besselsleigh);
* Hannah, 1773 (Besselsleigh);
* Rachel, 1776 (Besselsleigh).
So the names Mary and Hannah appear to have been recycled. (It looks like the first Mary died soon after being christened.)
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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 12:23 BST (UK) »
There seems to be a consensus in several unreferenced trees out there that a Thomas Louch (sometimes Loutch, Lowch etc) was born somewhere in Berkshire about 1735 and was the son of Bryant (sometimes Briant) and Susanna (nee Culham).
His parents were married on 13 October 1734 at Besselsleigh. Christenings for six (or five) other children for this couple appear in the indexes at FamilySearch; the others were baptised at either Besselsleigh or Cumnor, between 1738 and 1756. However, Thomas does not seem to make an appearance in parish registers anywhere – until his marriage to Susanna Salisbury, on 9 November 1760, at St Andrew's Church, Headington.
Some trees suggest that Thomas was born and/or died at "Sandford" (logically, Dry Sandford or Sandford-on-Thames, although other trees suggest the lesser known, and less likely, Sanford in Sonning). Some give a date of 4 January 1735 (while others say 1 April – probably a transposition).
I would be grateful for any suggestions or references that anyone has at hand. Thank you.
His parents were married on 13 October 1734 at Besselsleigh. Christenings for six (or five) other children for this couple appear in the indexes at FamilySearch; the others were baptised at either Besselsleigh or Cumnor, between 1738 and 1756. However, Thomas does not seem to make an appearance in parish registers anywhere – until his marriage to Susanna Salisbury, on 9 November 1760, at St Andrew's Church, Headington.
Some trees suggest that Thomas was born and/or died at "Sandford" (logically, Dry Sandford or Sandford-on-Thames, although other trees suggest the lesser known, and less likely, Sanford in Sonning). Some give a date of 4 January 1735 (while others say 1 April – probably a transposition).
I would be grateful for any suggestions or references that anyone has at hand. Thank you.
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England / Re: Two Elizabeths or one?
« on: Tuesday 24 March 20 16:21 GMT (UK) »Hi grantl, I have ggggfather who also married his daughter-in-laws widowed mother, JO
Jo, it was probably very common, especially in that era when people weren't mobile.
For what it's worth, I've read that the invention and boom in railways, around 150 years ago, led to an increase in family reunions – and a boom in marriages to cousins and other relatives
I've seen evidence of this in my own family.
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