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Europe / Re: I am stuck and am looking for help re: German ancestory - KUCHEL
« on: Monday 13 August 18 05:02 BST (UK) »
I am puzzled that you might claim an ancestral link to Johann George Kuchel (1783-1845) because all of George's descendents migrated to Australia in 1838/1845.
This thread has introduced some falsehoods that ought not mislead their readers. The family's 1838 migration was aboard the Prince George, and included three of his four sons. This 1838 migration of the Old Lutherans also included the ships Bengalee, Zebra and Catherina. Despite what some of the on-line passenger manifests might claim, the oldest son Gottfried and his family did not emigrate until 1845 aboard the Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel. I have found emigration listings for Gottfried in 1838 (Prince George), 1842 (Skjold), and 1845 (Patel), but only this last one is true.
I also feel reference to the Rhineland, rather than Brandenberg, to be misleading akin to a red herring. The 1838 migration was under the tutelage of Angas and Pastor Kavel. The book Kavel's People by David Schubert records all the migrants' origins, and you can rest assured that Georg Kuchel and his family originated from Langmiel, Brandenberg.
Don't be deterred, however because the Kuchel family leased 240 acres from a 400-acre Section owned by the Incorporated Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts (a mission arm of the Church of England), and their lease stipulated they should plant 4.5 acres of vines. I thus conclude these grapes were grown according to Brandenberg practices and not Rhineland practices.
This thread has introduced some falsehoods that ought not mislead their readers. The family's 1838 migration was aboard the Prince George, and included three of his four sons. This 1838 migration of the Old Lutherans also included the ships Bengalee, Zebra and Catherina. Despite what some of the on-line passenger manifests might claim, the oldest son Gottfried and his family did not emigrate until 1845 aboard the Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel. I have found emigration listings for Gottfried in 1838 (Prince George), 1842 (Skjold), and 1845 (Patel), but only this last one is true.
I also feel reference to the Rhineland, rather than Brandenberg, to be misleading akin to a red herring. The 1838 migration was under the tutelage of Angas and Pastor Kavel. The book Kavel's People by David Schubert records all the migrants' origins, and you can rest assured that Georg Kuchel and his family originated from Langmiel, Brandenberg.
Don't be deterred, however because the Kuchel family leased 240 acres from a 400-acre Section owned by the Incorporated Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts (a mission arm of the Church of England), and their lease stipulated they should plant 4.5 acres of vines. I thus conclude these grapes were grown according to Brandenberg practices and not Rhineland practices.