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Sorry, I suspect there's not a lot of difference, but I gather that FindMyPast is cheaper to join than ancestry. I have already researched a lot of my earlier family history (before the internet) and am merely considering having a look at the later census returns (and asking for an early Christmas present subscription!)

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: census returns
« on: Tuesday 30 October 18 14:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you. It looks like FindMyPast is the better option. Is there anything that ancestry has access to that FindMyPast doesn't?

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On the 1891 and 1901 census returns, I was able to look at all the 500 or so people living in my village. However, I believe that when the 1911 census first came out, one could only look at an individual household and not even know who their neighbours were. Is this still the case? Which is the best site to access the 1911 and 1939 returns? Do you have to pay per individual page?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Christened twice in two churches
« on: Monday 29 October 18 09:15 GMT (UK)  »
axholme re reply #8.

Is it possible that their first baptisms were private and second ones were the part of the baptism ceremony accepting them into the church?


I think they were non-Conformists and the first baptisms were in an Independent chapel in Salford

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Christened twice in two churches
« on: Sunday 28 October 18 14:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I found a similar thing with several of my ancestor's children in Salford, first baptised in Salford and then in Manchester cathedral (several on the same day).

Multiple baptisms and weddings were common at Manchester Cathedral (Collegiate Church). Were the majority infants?
What date was it?
There were sometimes duplicate entries in registers because a ceremony happened at a chapel-of-ease and was also recorded in parish church register.

Edit. I've looked at 2 baptism registers on LANOPC 1815 & 1834. 1821 register isn't there.
Average number of baptisms was 50 on 5th, 12th & 19th Jan. 1834, more than on days in between. Those dates may have been Sundays. Similar pattern for October 1815. 102 baptisms 24th Dec. 1815; dozens more on 25th Dec. and about 70 on 31st Dec. with smaller numbers on intervening days.

This was on 7/1/1821, baptisms for Samuel, James and Joseph Oddy. This was when I first started researching my family history, back in the 1990s before the internet, so it was mostly from the IGI. I initially thought they were triplets, but from census returns and marriage certificates, realised that Joseph was first baptised on 30/4/1809 and married Sarah Dixon on 23/8/1826. Samuel was first baptised on 13/2/1820 and married Mary Dyson on 14/10/1839. I think it may have been a first baptism for James. I did go to Manchester to look at the baptism records and got the impression that there were many baptisms done on that day.



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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Christened twice in two churches
« on: Saturday 27 October 18 16:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I found a similar thing with several of my ancestor's children in Salford, first baptised in Salford and then in Manchester cathedral (several on the same day). In this case, it seems there was a special service and nearly 100 people were baptised on the same day in a special ceremony in 1821. Maybe by a Billy Graham-type preacher?

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The Common Room / Re: Mineral rights
« on: Saturday 27 October 18 11:46 BST (UK)  »
Thank you. As you say, the problem is the time scale (and I doubt that the Wentworth papers are online and have been indexed).

As a (slightly) related topic, I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the book Black Diamonds by Catherine Bailey about the Fitzwilliams and Wentworth Woodhouse.

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The Common Room / Re: Mineral rights
« on: Saturday 27 October 18 09:42 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for looking. No, neither of those you mention is relevant. Would it be better to check on Earl Fitzwilliam in case it was a joint action with several tenants/lessees perhaps? (But I don't want to put you to a lot of trouble; I'm very grateful for what you've done already)

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The Common Room / Re: Mineral rights
« on: Friday 26 October 18 14:50 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Stan. Yes, it is the same topic. Do you have any idea as to who owned the mineral rights before the river Don was diverted? I assume Earl Fitzwilliam owned the land that Boundary House was built on, but maybe the previous owner kept the mineral rights? I think there must be a grain of truth in what my Dad said since it's such an unlikely topic. Maybe it was a group action by all the leaseholders? Sadly, I can't provide any more details.

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