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Lanarkshire / Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Sunday 31 May 20 19:32 BST (UK)  »
I still have been unable to find any more information on John McNicol-Miller-Crerar. 

I've been searching for a death certificate, but as it is impossible to know where he might have gone after abandoning his wife and two children, and him going by multiple names, its so hard.

Any advice welcomed.

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Lanarkshire / Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Tuesday 18 December 18 14:50 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Jamjar on Tuesday 18 December 18 00:26 GMT (UK)
Have you connected the Crerar and the McNicol families. Could he have been given to a family member?

Added: How do you know he was ‘given’ to a McNicol family?

Jamjar

My Mum was able to tell me that about him.  She vaguely remembers her Grandma McNicol, and knew that there was an affair with a bus driver.... I don't know how the McNicols came to be involved, but I was told that they "helped a woman out of a situation." 

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Lanarkshire / Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Tuesday 18 December 18 14:48 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Wendy2305 on Tuesday 18 December 18 05:08 GMT (UK)
Just to add the John McNicol Miller registration in Bonhilll is the same one as the John McNicol Duff in Bomhill also indexed under Crerar and Miller
As he is registered under Miller his father went and registered him with your gt grandmother and his name will be on the certificate
It also appears to have been registered in Springburn as well I would guess this is because your Grt grandmother was married to James Duff and John wasn't his child she had him away from the family home and he was born and registered in Springburn but also it was forwarded on to  Bonhill as that was her usual residence

Really helpful, thank you EVERYONE!!!  I was so confused about all these different names and locations... it seems like the mud is clearing.

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Lanarkshire / Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Monday 17 December 18 23:38 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: CaroleW on Monday 17 December 18 22:54 GMT (UK)
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He was in the Navy, they lived in Wales for sometime before returning to Pollock area.  He then disappeared.  He went to sea and never returned (he did not die, he just fled his family).

Roughly what year did he disappear?

Was he in the Royal or the Merchant navy?

Having his actual birthdate could be useful when looking for a death for him

Disappearance in the early 1960s from what I can gather.  Royal Navy (with no particular status or rank), and 1929 seems to be the birth estimate, but I can't find definitive documentation yet.

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Lanarkshire / Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Monday 17 December 18 20:46 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Wendy2305 on Monday 17 December 18 20:16 GMT (UK)
Hi  Euphemia who died in 1951 at Aberfeldy had other name Rees which would match with a marriage between Euphemia Crerar and Alexander John Rees in 1921 at Aberfeldy There is a birth in 1929 in Aberfeldy of a John McNicol Crerar  this would possibly be your grandfather

That does sound right, yes.  I don't have that birth record, however.    The name Alexander J Rees has shown up in my research, also, although I didn't have the dots connected correctly that he would be my great, great grandfather!  Thank you.

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Lanarkshire / Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Monday 17 December 18 20:32 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Wendy2305 on Monday 17 December 18 20:16 GMT (UK)
Hi  Euphemia who died in 1951 at Aberfeldy had other name Rees which would match with a marriage between Euphemia Crerar and Alexander John Rees in 1921 at Aberfeldy There is a birth in 1929 in Aberfeldy of a John McNicol Crerar  this would possibly be your grandfather

Thank you.  I didn't think to look for him using Crerar. 

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Lanarkshire / Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Monday 17 December 18 20:30 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, absolutely understand the "no living person" policy.  Makes sense, unfortunately, I have not been able to CONFIRM for certain that he has died, I am only going by the fact that every other person of that generation in my family has passed - the youngest who would have been his sister in law - died in 2015. 

Attached is the marriage certificate I obtained.

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Lanarkshire / John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« on: Monday 17 December 18 19:26 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to trace details of my maternal grandfather.   

He was born (according to DNA) to a Robert Miller and Euphemia Crerar.  It seems Euphemia was married to someone else at the time, and so my grandfather was "given" to another family, the McNicol's. 

John McNicol married my grandmother Margaret Gilkison in 1948 at Bridgeton Methodist Church.  They had two children.  He was in the Navy, they lived in Wales for sometime before returning to Pollock area.  He then disappeared.  He went to sea and never returned (he did not die, he just fled his family).

It is believed he may have also reverted to John Miller at this time.

Can anyone help me figure out how to find where he may have gone, and what his life looked like?  I'm working on the assumption that he is now deceased, of course.   

This topic is very painful for my mother, and my grandmother certainly never spoke his name to us.  He left her alone with two small children, understandable that they closed the door on that chapter. 

Thank you in advance.

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