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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Monday 03 June 19 14:59 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Aghadowey.  I have a local office that has been closed for months...but they reopen next week. A woman I talked to on the phone led me to believe that I could get microfilm for a fee and read in their office.  But I'll see.  I also am close to the Library of Congress.  I will persist!

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 19:12 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Ohio.  Yes--I have requested the Mara book on inter-library loan--the only libraries that will loan a book are public libraries and I think there is only one on the World Cat list.  But I'm not in a hurry! 

I also will be finally able to visit the local FSL here in my town (they have been closed for month...a water-pipe break or something).  They said they have access to Irish microfilm--we'll see.

I will track your suggestions...thank you so much.  I've been doing this since December...certainly the Irish family has been the most difficult.

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 18:42 BST (UK)  »

The book (They Came to Mara) records his birth month and year as April, 1845.

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 18:26 BST (UK)  »
Reply OldOhioHome

Yes--that's the book (They Came to Mara) that I'm trying to get--I do have the pages referring to Patrick and John. The information you found about Patrick is correct--I knew Frank who signed the death certificate (I believe the reference is Utney) and the town is Brechin where my grandfather lived. 

I have tracked records for the children--Ontario was called Canada West before Ontario became a province (circa 1845).  From Patrick's memory in the book mentioned above, he came with a sister from Ireland when he was 2.  They first went to Sorrel, Quebec for about 4 years and then to Trafalgar, Halton County, Canada West (Oakville Village), and then to Mara in 1856 (the years are from his memory!).

His mother's name was Kavanaugh which was shortened to Cavin...in records provided by children. I find this a lot--one of the sons (my uncle) who signed my grandmother's death certificate in 1936 didn't even know her maiden name (which was Flannery!).

Thanks for your research!

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 17:36 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Maiden Stone.  I have also figured out that the wedding date is the best starting point.  Someone pointed out to me that none of us "remembers" our own birth dates but we all know when a wedding occurred.  What you pointed out (discrepancy in dates) is the same for burial sites...wrong dates. These Irish ancestors (all named Patrick or Mary) have been a challenge, for sure!

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 17:32 BST (UK)  »
Reply OldOhioHome: 

That link you sent was great--thank you.  So there were FOUR Patrick Flannerys in 1871 in Ontario!  Made me a little crazy until I figured out that only one was my Patrick/Great-Grandfather.  This information was GOLD to me.  Thank you. 

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 17:15 BST (UK)  »
Reply to OldOhioHome:
"A tree at ancestry.com I'm looking at has both parents born in Kings Co, no source given, Mary between 1823 and 1831, and John between 1825 to 1831." 

That's where I found the Kings County reference; my cousin found the same reference for these ancestors. But sometimes the family trees in Ancestry are really off.....

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 17:10 BST (UK)  »
Reply to Maiden Stone:  Thanks for correcting my subtraction.  Sheesh.  So maybe the 1828 record is closer to the mark!  And you're right about birth dates--even the census information is taken 1-2 years before the date filed.

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Ireland / Re: Looking for Great Grandparents
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 17:07 BST (UK)  »
Reply to Maiden Stone:  Roman Catholic.  Yes--that's what I'm finding--records are incomplete. 

The marriage record of Patrick Flannery in Mara (1868) was only recorded by the parish priest--Ontario as a province was just one year old and the "records law" was not yet in place.  I'm lucky to have found a webmaster who answered my question AND sent me the record as well as copies from pages of a book chronicling the origins of Mara that included stories and even photos of my ancestors!  I'm tracking down that book now through my University's library!  To top it all off, he and I are related.  I LOVE doing this kind of research!!

Reply to OldOhioHome:  The Canadian records have been wonderful!  I also have French ancestors--I can go to the town websites and find just about anything!

Reply to Colin Lamb:  thanks for the resource...I'm on it!!

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