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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Annetts of south Wales
« on: Saturday 01 August 20 08:10 BST (UK)  »
Yes, the will of Rosina May Price confirms her daughter as Irene Maude Harris. Both living at 19 Woodlands Rd. Sonning Common in 1973. Rosina died on 27th Nov 1977.

Armed Forces Resources / Re: Hellens Manor
« on: Monday 11 November 19 10:16 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for your prompt reply
Dave T

Armed Forces Resources / Hellens Manor
« on: Monday 11 November 19 09:42 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching the military history of Hubert Ernest De Burgh born 1889. I have a record card for him showing his discharge from the Argyl and Sutherland highlanders regt. on 7/6/18. The card shows disabilities:GSH (orW?) Rt leg (amp) and an address of Hellens much markle nr Ledbury.
Does anyone have any experience of reading these cards? I presume that the Hubert had all or part of his right leg amputated, what does GSH mean? I presume that Hellens means Hellens manor which stands today, but may have been used as a hospital for army veterans. Does anyone know of any records on this establishment?
Hubert seems to have had two service postings as he is also listed as in the AVC, which I think is the Army Veterinary Corps. Would a soldier have normally transferred between posts?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« on: Wednesday 04 September 19 11:21 BST (UK)  »
I now have the birth certificate for Eva Nash, born in Chorlton, 11 June 1905. Parents Albert Edward Nash and Mary Nash formerly Todkill. Address is 61 Barlow Street. As you will remember the Baptism record recorded the birth as 19 June 1905, I guess the vicar had been at the communion wine that morning. That DOB is exactly the same as for our Eva Annette Girling / Nash (from the death and 1939 register), so ties those two people together as one. I don't know when the Annette middle name came in, but not at birth anyway.
I can get back to the crazy relationships that Eva had and the four children by various partners. I think this may take some time.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« on: Monday 02 September 19 14:52 BST (UK)  »
Eva's will lists only two sons, one grandchild and the respective partners /spouses. The newspaper obituary for Brian Nash lists his wife, children and grandchildren.
I'm waiting for Eva's birth certificate (to confirm or otherwise her date of birth). I might then move on to the Fred Girling marriage.
Eva's will only gives two sons, the now deceased Brian and one other, who may have married , but I presume is living with another woman at the time the will was drafted. I found this son on the Curtismill electoral register and he is listed more recently with his partner as cab drivers in D****** (easy to find with Google).
I can't see how there was time for any more children to be born to Eva! The 1939 register only has one name redacted, so Brian and one other who must be a little younger than Brian. A return to London after the war in 1945, then a marriage to Fred Girling in 1956.
I don't have access to the published tree, but I presume this is a part of Eva's grand-daughter's (Sarah) family. The will shows she has married and hence is not a Nash. I don't understand Hubert E Nash at all, he should be De Burgh after all. Though I cannot find any marriage.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« on: Monday 02 September 19 12:57 BST (UK)  »
I now have the will of Eva Annette Girling, 'otherwise known as Eva Annette Nash'. This confirms this person as the Nash who married Fred Girling and the women who appeared on the 1939 registration with Brian Hubert Nash. Sadly Brian died on 10 Aug 2010 and a brief obituary can be found in the Basingstoke Gazette (via Google). The will also lists a son who I presume is still alive and has the same name as the person who appears in the electoral register in Curtismill close. There are clearly several living relatives, so I still some chance to make contact with some of them and perhaps get a photograph of Eva. Brian's middle name does seem to confirm  Hubert De Burgh as his father, though not so clear for his brother.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« on: Wednesday 28 August 19 09:38 BST (UK)  »
I now have a copy of the will of Eva Nash who died on 29 April 2006. The will is dated 24 March shortly before her death. However this Eva Nash is not the one I was searching for, her address is in Clay Cross Chesterfield. The main bequests are to her three sons, one of whom has an interesting middle name: Hartley. So this Eva might be related by marriage to Joseph W Nash (uncle to my Eva Nash) who married Emily Hartly (sept 1913 Chorlton). I will blow another 1.50 on the will of Eva Girling to see what that one shows.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« on: Sunday 25 August 19 16:08 BST (UK)  »
I will have to chase up that divorce case at Kew. I'm sort of expecting Ms Winchcombe to be throwing some serious crockery, given what hubby may have been up to in 1930.
I have a bit more detail from the electoral lists:
Annette Nash was settled in Curtismills close for some time, son Brian appears when old enough to vore. Then there is the name change from Annette Nash to Girling with Fred living at same address. Finally Brian leaves in 1961 when his Wandsworth marriage happens.
I'm not sure what happens, but Brian might have dropped the De Burgh name and used Nash, in which case there are three children born in 62, 65 and 73. It would be rather nice if one of these children happened upon these posts in the future.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« on: Friday 23 August 19 13:47 BST (UK)  »
I've had a good run through the electoral registers for London, from about 1937 to 1965. They mostly seem consistent with other information, such as appearance of son Brian from the 1950s and the change of name to Girling still at the same address. How old did you need to be to vote in 1950, 21 or 18? There seems to be a sudden jump from south London in the 1930s to Lewis in 1939, then a return to London in 1946. I presume this was an evacuation to safer countryside as I know that south London took a real hammering during the Blitz (several of my family were down the Tube stations every night, or evacuated to Devon). The London records are very good, but I have had no success with electoral registers for Manchester, any suggestions?
I too am beginning to think that Eva was a bit of a good time girl and that indeed there was no De Burgh marriage. At least she had the sense and perhaps support to keep the child second time around.

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