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Hi the Barnfather family in Wetheral are ancestors of mine . John Barnfather b 1763 Wetheral Cumberland d 1829 ? and Ann Atkinson b 1761 Wetheral d 1829 ? . I have examined various online trees Familysearch Ancestry Wikitree . I have not been able to research English records yet but my ancestor Jane Barnfather b Wetheral 1794 married 1 James Adamson then my ancestor 2 George Graham a Tailor from Stapleton and was living at Hillbeck . Jane was daughter of John and Ann . John Barnfather line in Wetheral is already documented in a rootschat piece of research . But these trees and other records in sites Find My Past Ancestry Familysearch etc suggest he descends from the Lanercost Barnfather family and in turn right back to Gilbert Barnfather and his father Robert in Swarthgill Kirkoswald near Penrith . I noticed something else that the Barnfather family according to a DNA project descend from Viking blood and that in Britain they go back to a Barnfather in Lapley Staffordshire with the name previously being Barnfeilde sounds Danish . I’m aware the Barnfather family is one of largest northern families in Cumberland and Northumberland. In this regard they were usually on the receiving end of reivers or border reivers but some sources suggest they were reivers . It would be interesting if anyone had an accurate Barnfather family tree that they could send me thank you Chris .

Sorry no I haven’t located Isabella in 1841 no

January 1 1811 Wamphrey Dumfriesshire is where they married

Thanks Neale il think what I’m going to do next Chris

I have a William Kirkpatrick b 1848 Balmaclellan Kirkudbrightshire d 1925 the Stoop Dumfries. His mother Elizabeth Wallace of Gibbs Hill Balmaclellan daughter of Samuel Wallace pursued his father Robert Kirkpatrick a Clogger from Torthorwald in a paternity case which she won and he was forced to pay child maintenance it is mentioned in the Kirk session records at Torthorwald Robert was b 1817 but no idea where he went after 1849 case in 1841 he was living with his mother Agnes Kirkpatrick at Torthorwald village he’s listed again as a Cloggmaker . I saw other records the death of a William Kirkpatrick a Farmer at Barluith Farm Torthorwald b 1791 Dumfriesshire d 1825 buried in Torthorwald Churchyard the sources I looked at show Robert and his siblings were his children and Agnes his wife . Agnes a Kirkpatrick by birth too born circa 1791 death date no idea but I looked at a sister of Robert and her death entry states these are her parents l no idea what happened to Robert on his sons William OPR Baptism at  Balmaclellan it states his name was John so clearly he told some porkies to Elizabeth and the Kirk session records kind of illustrate that . Trying to find William and Agnes births Chris